Wanted 308 gt4

I am looking for a car In good mechanical condition. Probably not considering red cars.

 

I'd say don't let the color stand in your way. I'm the LAST person who wanted a red Ferrari, but I ended up with one anyway.

I had the same mentality when I started my search, but it was difficult to find one not red, and when I did, it wasn't in good shape. Before buying, I found a total of 8 for sale, only one was not-red (it was yellow). The one I ended up with is pretty much perfect, I couldn't have hoped for anything better.

The good news? The original color was not red! That's the case with a lot of these cars, it was really popular to repaint them red in the late 80s and early 90s. Mine was originally Verde Pino Metallizzato, so a nice dark green (which it will be going back to in the near future).

Pay attention to condition, originality, pedigree, history… don't worry about the color. That can always be changed.

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Chris, I have had my 1975 with it's original Argento paint for 10 years, and would love to see it go back to California. I would like seventy-five for it, reach me at lolafundATyahooDOTcom if you like. Some fchat work threads follow.

https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/bradan-308-gt4-service.465153/

https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/bradan-308-engine-reseal-rust-repair-suspension-etc.548702/

https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/bradan-308-service.373323/

 

Just read through the Bradan threads, always love those.

That car looks like a pretty great way to get into a GT4, and it wears argento nicely IMO.

 

Does look like a great car, and the right people servicing it.
Definitely one to consider.

 

Chris, I have no affiliation, 15584 looks and sounds real nice.

 

I was gonna post this, Al Ieardi of Naples Classic Car (Strictly Ferrari) restored this car. I called a couple of day ago, they said they thought it was sold. Price was $175k.

 

Well yeah you can change the color- and as long as the color is an original Ferrari color of the period still quality for judging at Cavallino.

Major issue these days is a really high end respray is tens of thousands of dollars, so usually a good idea to buy the car you want.

Then again- what's wrong with RED?
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I am confused by this car. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the last year for the 308 GT4 was 1980, so how is this an 1981 model? And the dashboard more resembles a Series I car. I know you have no affiliation, but this car seems really nice but also seems odd… or else everything I've learned about them is somewhat inaccurate now.

 

Hi, this is my car consigned to Autosport. I believe its sold. It was one of the last cars produced. I am not knowledgeable enough to speak to the differences in dash by Series. I bought it because it was absolutely incredible to drive. Like a grown-up Alfa GTV. The seating position (you sit at the b-pillar/front axle), sound (it had a custom sport exhaust) and quality of the restoration. I am still not sure I wanted to sell it, but too late…

 

Looks OK to me. There might be some differences between US and non-US spec cars but the dash looks similar to my 1976 made, 1977 registered, UK model. I've swapped the clock and Oil temp gauge positions in mine, since it's more useful to be able to see Oil temp than the time.

Plenty of these cars were registered a year or so after they were built - there wasn't the demand for them that there is for Ferraris today.

 

What I noticed different about the dashboard is on the left side. Series I cars (1974 - 1975) have three switches and three lights (Fan, Hazard, Rear Def) along with the "Fasten Seat Belts" light. Series II cars (1976 - 1980) have three switched and two lights (Hazard and Fan switches with lights, and a Wiper Speed switch with no light) as well as the "Fasten Seat Belts" light. This one for sale seems to have a mixture of the two, plus a different thing: three switches and lights (Fan, Hazard, Fog), and a separate Wipe-Speed switch, but no "Fasten Seat Belts" light.

That may be a difference between Euro and US models, but I've never seen it before. I have a friend with a 1974 Euro model, and another friend with a 1979 US model. In the pic below, the Series I car is my 1975 US car, the middle Series II is my friend's 1979 US car, and the one at the bottom is the car for sale.

It's an interesting curiosity that I've never seen before.

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That's true, but that should not affect the year model designation. For example, my car is a 1975 model (manufactured March 14, 1975). But, it didn't sell until May 14, 1976 - over a year later, but it was still registered and sold as a 1975 model. The same with another friend's car, he also has a 1975 model, but it didn't sell until sometime in 1979!! Yet, it was still sold and registered as a 1975 model car.

 

Dyerhaus,

According to "Al Ierdardi the seller in 2017"..." (Actual VIN# is 15584) This is a very late EURO 308GT4, produced in February 1981 by the French importer Charles Pozzi, after official production ended. " Perhaps Matthias Bartz most knowledgeable on all things Dino could shed some light?

With regards to the left side toggle switches...the Euro cars are different from the NA cars...as your pictures indicate. Did the Euro dash toggel switches ever change from Series I to II?

 

Great car you have. Congratulations, $175k would be a high sale (by a lot)

 

This is my car. Series 2 built 1976 registered 1977. In the UK the date of first registration is what counts and that's what the 'year' registration on the plate follows.

We didn't have any seat belt warnings, oversize bumpers or large indicator repeaters in the 70s in the UK.

 

Ah, very cool! So I learned something new! I love divining into these cars and learning as much as I can about them, I hadn't realized there were other differences between US and Euro models aside form the ugly US bumpers and side markers. Thanks for that info!!

 

Interesting, I did some digging and found the ad for this car (link below). Oddly, it sats something a little different…

This 308 GT4 was produced in June 1980 and registered as a 1981. It was part of the final production of the car. This example is also the very last one produced with a factory sunroof.​

A little contradiction there, but I guess there's always some contradictions when researching these cars! Like I said in my comment above, I love divining into these cars and learning as much as I can about them, and this one is presenting some interesting peculiarities.

https://www.autosportdesigns.com/vehicles/1376/1981-ferrari-308-gt4

 

I also meant to add that's an interesting difference between the US and the UK. It doesn't matter what year the car is sold in the US, it matters what year the car was made. So here, the year model of the car is based on year of manufacture, not date sold. The US couldn't couldn't do it any differently, especially when we're talking about cars from the 70s. Our regulations and emissions laws changed so much in that time period that if a car manufactured in 1975 was sold new in 1979 as a 1979 model, it actually would have been illegal as that car would not have satisfied the US federal emissions regulations in 1979 (like my friend's car). Or, even my car for that matter (which was sold new a year and three months after its date of manufacture).

 

Yes...and no...

One of my cars was unsold at Ron Tonkin, that did not change it from a 1977, it was sold in 1979.

Now there CAN be some confusion with Grey Market Euros in the US as MOST of them get 'titled with importation", so mainly with the 5 digit VINs, one could easily end up with a 1976 titled as a 1981, for instance.

Once to longer VINs were required (US DOT in 1981) and Ferrari adopted them, it is what it is, unless you use a grinder!!!