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Official book collectors thread

Discussion in 'Collectables, Literature, & Models' started by lil squid, Jun 9, 2008.

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  1. bloomberg

    bloomberg Formula Junior

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    In my book it is called cheating! This has nothing to do with properly operating a business.
     
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  2. Jack-the-lad

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    Thank you for stating your case, Mr. Porter.
     
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  3. jtremlett

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    He has explained that was an error as a result of how the software they use works. I can't see why that's an issue but I appreciate other people may have a different view.
     
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  4. Marcel Massini

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    THIS.

    Marcel Massini
     
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  5. Buchpilot

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    Well, let's look into the future and anticipate with pleasure the F40 book by @Philip Porter. I am really looking forward to it. And everyone knows now that it is better to order early than to wait and be surprised by prices cutting capers.
     
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  6. Manfred Steinert/MPS

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    I wonder if the publisher shares the extra profit made with the authors?

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  7. of2worlds

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    well maybe the 'author' got extra copies of the book to do with as he saw fit as part of 'his' work contract...
     
  8. Rosey

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    Yes I understand the explanation and do appreciate Philip Porter coming onto F Chat to put his point of view across.

    I just personally think that a retail price of an item (book, watch, car, etc, etc ) should be set by it's manufacturer and should remain the same no matter how well it's received in the market place.

    Of course it's normal to discount an item from time to time to help it sell but increasing the price as available stock is about to disappear I just don't like.

    Anyway I hope Philip becomes a regular contributor to the forum like many other authors here and beyond this issue gives us advanced information into his upcoming projects or some interesting behind the scenes insights.
     
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  9. bloomberg

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    It takes years to establish a good reputation, and only 5 minutes to ruin it.
     
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  10. Thomas Quintin

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    I would have never imagine a thread on motoring books to become a discussion on speculation and who has to get the profits. What a pathetic world we're living in!
    Congrats to Porter press for the great GTE book they published (at a reasonable price), and many, many thanks to the author! And again, like for the Miura book of Kidston, I would have liked that more were made to fullfill the demand. But I can understand it's sometime hard to predict it.
    I just hope it will not become a strategy of all book publishers to do like Ferrari. Make less than demand, in order to have increased priced on secondary market and attract investors, in hope to be able to sell at higher price the future new books. I fear that's all what's coming, and I dislike. Please, Mr Porter, for the real book enthusiasts, try not to go that way!
     
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  11. Rosey

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    You know what's pathetic... opening statements like yours.

    It's a forum on Ferrari books and their publishers ffs !!

    If this not the place to have open and frank discussions on all aspects on the topic then pray tell where is ??
     
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  12. Rosey

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    #4187 Rosey, Jan 21, 2022
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    Postscript...

    Discussion had with Thomas off line.

    A true book enthusiast that as it turns out have since discovered we share some common ground on many book "speculation" concerns.
     
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  13. Nembo1777

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    Excellent post Thomas.

    Books are instruments of knowledge that should be available to all, in this car universe available to all enthusiasts in paper or electronic form and I find the greedculation around car books revolting, degenerate and decadent, symbolised perfectly by the new tendency by various publishers to produce hyper limited oligarch specials.
     
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  14. bloomberg

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    Books are my passion, not my business. Agreed, books are instruments of knowledge. But ultimately a publisher has the freedom to do whatever pleases him/her, limiting an edition to 1 or 100.000, and charging whatever he/she sees fit. And if an edition is sold out, it is sold out. The issue with Porter is one of reliability, not speculation. Porter has done some very nice books, sold at attractive prices. And if they take their audience seriously, they will continue to do that. There are plenty of publishers like Opus, and Assouline (and to some extent Taschen), that peddle large quantities of junk at elevated prices under the name of collectors items. A quality publisher like Palawan Press (selling limited numbers) on the other hand has always been straight with its customers. And believe me, if I want to speculate, there are far more attractive options than selling a book now and then.
     
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  15. Nembo1777

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    I was not targeting Philip or anyone in particular, just the general tendency.
     
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  16. Jack59

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    Hello,

    Besides Jess Pourret and Ken Gross books, which titles do you recommend for the Ferrari 250 SWB ?
     
  17. Rosey

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    I hope you guys will appreciate the irony if I recommend this book. :) :) :)


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  18. Jack59

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    Thank you, but I forgot to mention this one ! I have it, of course !

    I have also the one published by Cavalleria Collection about 250 SWB 2939GT and written by Doug Nye.

    I'm actually reading «Breadvan a Ferrari to beat the GTO» which is written by Heseltine as well.

    But I was thinking about old books, maybe written in the 70's or 80's which I had never heard about.

    During this pandemic time, reading books is a great and enjoyable passion which help to stay safe at home !
     
  19. Jack59

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    And there is obviously another one from Porter Press, written bye Doug Nye again: Ferrari 250 GT Short-Wheelbase Berlinetta, the autobiography of 2119 GT.
     
  20. Natan Tazelaar

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  21. Juli

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    My copy arrived before Christmas and I love it. :)
     
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  22. Buchpilot

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  23. bloomberg

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  24. Rosey

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    I second that.
     
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  25. Nembo1777

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    Your sin will be absolved if you show us your 7 foot tall blonde Moscow super model girlfriend tanning on the deck of your megayacht:D
     

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