This is a big question for them. They will highlight the excellent work of the engine engineers to sell it.
Usually fchat waits for a new Ferrari to be released first and then start with all the doom saying. It seems that now conjecture is good enough to start the doom saying...
That's because in the past you knew it would be the same, but a little bit better. Now, the future is relatively unknown. Lack of knowledge breeds uncertainty and fear.
I’m holding onto my 812gts with both hands and feet. You can keep the batteries and iPad dashboards. No thank you.
The new electronics just are really not IMHO competently executed and have a huge impact on the overall quality of the new cars. Ferrari are not software experts in terms of user interface. As a professional software developer a bad user interface like that is really noticeable and annoying. This is part of the reason I put down a deposit on a Portofino M last year, to grab another new car with the old kind of analog setup. Also love it has an either gear which the superfast could really use. I'm also frankly not interested in hybrid. A small V-12 with electric motors is a nah dawg to me. 296/SF90 are cars I'm just not interested in owning. At this point a C8 Z06 is likely to make me happier as it's a similar setup to a speciale.
Great choice on the Portrofino M. Very underrated Ferrari which is fantastic to drive and the best interior of the new model Ferraris.
Nobody ever complained that the LaFerrari was a hybrid, so Im sure (most) people wont care if the 812 replacement comes with a hybrid system as well...
Right, but it has not really affected the desirability of the LaF. And no complain on weight, perf, soul, sound, etc.
There has been complaint of weight, though the SP3 proved that even without the hybrid components the car would still be relatively heavy. What the LaF and SP3 should’ve been are the GMA T.50 and T.33, revolutionary through the art of lightweight, but that’s my opinion. The 812 successor could be heavy, it’s a sporting grand tourer, but the complexity of it’s powertrain could be an issue in the long run. Think of the out of engine services of the 355s, hugely desirably cars but you wouldn’t want to buy one before it’s needs that service. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
The LaF 'KERS' system is quite different, it cannot operate the car in 'electric only', it was designed for boost (like an F1 car) not for emissions regulations. That means the current hybrid systems are much heavier due to larger battery to provide "25 miles" of electric only driving range. Is there any LaF owner that is happy with the KERS system? It is very expensive to maintain and they all need it now, somewhere around $300,000 to keep it running for most if they cannot find a way to get it covered under warranty (battery, inverter, labor). If SF90/296/etc require large expenses every 5-10 years to keep the car running it will impact ownership and be a hindrance. Time will tell but the LaF provides a sample of what could be...
Personally, I don't find the GMA cars enticing. The Valkyrie on the other hand... now that's a game changer!
I understand the LaF’s have had quite a few significant problems. The value there lies in the rarity and beauty. But we are talking regular production V12; these are now classics.
I get progress and I can live w hybrid and NAv12 even though I would prefer a non assisted v12. This may sound silly but the one thing I desperately wish they would bring back is the analog tach. I can live with screens too but the tach should be a real thing and Ferrari tach’s of late are a thing of beauty. Comparing the feel and emotion of looking at my GTS tach versus my digital Roma one is night and day. Come on Ferrari….bring it back!
Honestly, when you "love to drive", I don't see how you can't love the T33. Personally, if I could afford it, I wouldn't hesitate for a second. I would have loved that the F 167 was made like a T33... But hey, not possible because 80% of Ferrari customers wouldn't know how to use it.