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Discussion in '12Cilindri' started by Thecadster, Jun 29, 2021.

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  1. Prancing12

    Prancing12 Karting

    May 8, 2005
    61
    80% wouldn't know how to use a manual ? I've seen quite few that have no clue how to brake smoothly :eek:
     
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  2. George330

    George330 Formula 3

    Oct 19, 2009
    1,453
    Switzerland
    Full Name:
    George
    I agree with you. It is a wonderful car…not small money though…


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  3. jumpinjohn

    jumpinjohn F1 Veteran
    Rossa Subscribed

    Mar 22, 2013
    7,585
    Texas
    Full Name:
    John
    <running to my cry room>


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  4. REALZEUS

    REALZEUS F1 Veteran

    Feb 16, 2011
    8,435
    Bournemouth, UK
    It's not like the GMAs are affordable...


    Are you insinuating that 80% of Ferrari's clientele don't know how to operate a manual transmission? I find this hard to believe.
     
  5. day355

    day355 F1 Rookie

    Jun 25, 2006
    2,587
    think that new customers probably don't know how to make a heel/toe and will have a hard time managing 615 hp for 1100 kg, without too much electronics, in a small wheelbase and with a manual gearbox.
    Much easier to use an SF 90 !!!
     
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  6. ale75

    ale75 Karting

    Oct 4, 2004
    168
    Italy
    Full Name:
    Alessandro
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  7. REALZEUS

    REALZEUS F1 Veteran

    Feb 16, 2011
    8,435
    Bournemouth, UK
    The same could be said for those who will buy the T50 though. Not to mention that it has a heel-toe auto function, as far as I remember from the video that Dario Franchitti made...
     
  8. JTSE30

    JTSE30 F1 Rookie

    Oct 1, 2004
    3,565
    Austin TX
    .5 second faster around a 12.5km track (7.8 miles), hardly seems worthwhile as an 'upgrade'
     
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  9. ale75

    ale75 Karting

    Oct 4, 2004
    168
    Italy
    Full Name:
    Alessandro
    handling track is 6.2 km (3.9 miles)
     
  10. JTSE30

    JTSE30 F1 Rookie

    Oct 1, 2004
    3,565
    Austin TX
    Wonder which one they are referring to, either way, .5 seconds on 3.9 miles is still not much of an upgrade.
     
  11. therryzsx

    therryzsx Formula 3

    Dec 2, 2011
    1,336
    can you remove electric motor and battery from LaFerrari or any other hybrid sports car and make it classic combustion engine car? or it's absolutely impossible?
     
  12. JTSE30

    JTSE30 F1 Rookie

    Oct 1, 2004
    3,565
    Austin TX
    I understand it is possible with LaF but requires reprogramming ECUs and some physical changes...for SF90/296 not possible, the hybrid drivetrain is too deeply integrated.
     
  13. ScrappyB

    ScrappyB Formula 3

    Oct 3, 2017
    1,649
    Wait for the non hybrid 296 Challenge car and then send it to Lanzante.
     
  14. 008

    008 Formula Junior

    Jun 6, 2006
    285
    Jupiter Island, FL
    I think the point generally is all high end sports car buyers typically fall into a few categories and those after a hybrid dct set up from Ferrari are not likely cross shopping the 50 or even the 33. Ultimately my bet is the the GMA cars will be much more valuable 20 years now per dollar spent today.
     
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  15. REALZEUS

    REALZEUS F1 Veteran

    Feb 16, 2011
    8,435
    Bournemouth, UK
    No one can really tell. Ultimately they are cars from a start up, without any provenance. Will GMA even exist in 20 years? But let's not speculate about values. The technical merits of these cars is a much more interesting topic.
     
  16. 635CSI

    635CSI F1 Rookie

    Jun 26, 2013
    3,046
    London UK
    Full Name:
    Graham
    So true.
    I am looking at a 2018 812, ordered for GBP 330, now GP 220 with 3k miles.
    So that has come off 100 k GBP in 3/4 years, alternatively it has dropped GBP 36.6 k for every 1000 miles.
    Has that depreciation slowed? Yes maybe
    Will it reverse?
    Not impossible, in the short term, where the chip crisis is pushing up 'nearly new prices'.
    Over the next 5 years?
    I doubt it.

    The last owner has two 250 GTO's so maybe not a worry for him !
     
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  17. jumpinjohn

    jumpinjohn F1 Veteran
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    Mar 22, 2013
    7,585
    Texas
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    John
    Depreciation is true or owners are insecure and unaware of depreciation?


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  18. Solid State

    Solid State F1 World Champ
    Owner Rossa Subscribed

    Feb 4, 2014
    10,594
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    Maximus Decimus Meridius
    As well as software performance upgrades from aftermarket.
     
  19. babgh

    babgh Karting

    Dec 21, 2016
    196
    Why don't these idiotic politicians just slowly phase out the diesel engines to a point that the diesel engines that would be running in the future will just be for those base load diesel power plants and some heavy duty trucks. If they do this instead of killing the petrol variants I think the air would be a lot cleaner since diesel in general is a dirtier kind of fuel compared to petrol.
    Still also couldn't understand why do these stupid politicians are bowing down to that idiot elon musk's ugly electric revolution via the company that he stole years ago(tesla motors). That idiot has some hilariously messianic complex that he thinks he is the end all be all of society. Seriously I don't want haptic screens, touch consoles, and tablets in the dashboard. Those things would malfunction after a year of ownership.


    Hopefully the 812 successor would still have a v12. It doesn't matter if it is a 4.0 or 5.0L V12 as long as they wouldn't destroy the DNA of ferrari.
     
  20. babgh

    babgh Karting

    Dec 21, 2016
    196
    That supercap for a hybrid is a brilliant way of utilizing additional electric power but minimizing the additional weight. Lambo 1 - Ferrari 0
     
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  21. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini Two Time F1 World Champ
    Honorary

    Mar 2, 2005
    24,860
    No, they malfunction on delivery day already.

    Marcel Massini
     
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  22. babgh

    babgh Karting

    Dec 21, 2016
    196
    Woah that is much worse than smartphone touchscreens
     
  23. F2003-GA

    F2003-GA F1 World Champ
    Rossa Subscribed

    Nov 2, 2003
    13,380
    Sunbelt
    Full Name:
    Bro
    now its 8 years later on So, I'm sure Ferrari has a better and cheaper battery solution
     
  24. 9nb

    9nb Formula Junior

    Sep 1, 2012
    700
    Hope that’s correct for the owners and the secondary market (were maybe I’ll afford one)


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  25. ferrarifanatic25

    ferrarifanatic25 Formula Junior

    Apr 9, 2009
    889
    OC
    I’d bet 50% of the new generation of Ferrari buyers in the next decade won’t even know how to use paddles. They start the engine set to auto as default and go drive around to show off their status symbol and post pictures on Instagram.
     
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