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I thought there was something in the magazine but after a quick look through issue #224 I could not find anything. However, after a better look I have found a small item about this book on page 11. Very easily missed, even when I was looking for it!

 

Here it is (btw, the number of copies is back to 699):
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I think I first saw mention of Let Me Sell You a Ferrari in this very thread. The author, Robert E Guarino, was part owner of Autohaus who variously dealt in Ferraris, BMWs, Nissans, Alfas etc. from the mid-1960s to the late 1980s in Massachusetts. It is a 300-page paperback with black & white pictures. He gives a bit of biographical background but it is mostly along the lines of "we sold a red 308 to someone from Boston who traded in the BMW he had previously bought from us" interspersed with various Ferrari dealer trips to Europe. I think it fair to say I found it only mildly interesting.

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Like Robert Guarino, Tom Hartley is a car dealer, although based in the UK and not a franchised dealer but a dealer in assorted high end cars. His son, Tom Hartley Jnr is also well known with his own, separate business leaning more towards classics. I don't know the story of why Tom Jnr decided to branch out on his own and you won't find out from this book since he is barely mentioned in a business sense.

The book is hardback, 240 pages with four sections of colour photographs. It starts out with Hartley's Romany background and his car dealings from a young age. But then meanders off into his meetings with various celebrities. I'm afraid I couldn't actually finish it. I'm sure there is a very interesting story to be told about Tom Hartley but, disappointingly, he mostly chooses not to tell it and what he doe say is badly in need of editing. Don't wasting your time or money on this book.

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In a similar category, how would you rate "Dealing in dreams" by John Collins? Worth the money if you are not just after another coffeetable book with nice pictures?

 

Agree. And the most interesting period besides the one when he started the business, which is the time when things went south and Ferrari ultimately pulled the plug, is just mentioned in a few sentences. There might be some interesting parallels to other brands or to what is going on in the factory dealership world today. But no insights on that at all.

 

I only know about the first edition. Basically JC informs the world about his greatness.

 

I posted my opinion of it earlier in this topic (post #4115). I liked it. Bloomberg didn't.

 

Recently seen these at a friend of mine. Gorgeous books.
What a phenomenal guy Phil Hill was.
I also discovered this great video, all about Phil Hill.
We see the man, a good decade after winning his F1 World Championship with Ferrari, walking through the factory with Franco Gozzi, talking to one of his former mechanics in fluent Italian. When Gozzi says : "I mean the Old Man is really devoted, ehh" it is so beautiful, so real.
Hill talking to Enzo, and driving a 365 GT4 BB over the Fiorano tetst track. Very emotional stuff.
(Don't mind the very period British Leyland publicity in the beginning, they sponsored the film.)


Proud here with a pristine 1961 Yearbook signed by Hill!
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Always good to know a fellow “Feel Heel”* devotee.

*Henry N. Manney, III, I think.

 

I like this classic Phil Hill image of 0728.

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I understand I had posts deleted here but I have no idea why. Perhaps the deleting moderator could be more specific.

 

Your post was a response to a promotional post by a member without commercial privileges and was removed in the cleanup. You did nothing wrong.

All the best,
Andrew.

 

So - I assume - a paying member is not allowed to promote his book, but every big publisher and luxury car dealer gets free advertising in this thread.

Well done FerrariChat.

If you really want to delete posts, why not starting with the ones which clearly break copyright laws on images.

Kind regards

Manfred


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There's a difference between product reviews and active promotion. Members, whether paying or not, cannot be mouthpieces promoting businesses that do not have sponsorship.

As to copyrighted material, please see the instructions on our Terms of Service page for reporting copyrighted material that requires removal: http://www.ferrarichat.com/termsofuse.htm

All the best,
Andrew.

 

@Ferrari27 has been banned for 24 hours for reposting a deleted post.

Please do not circumvent moderation action, it will only cause it to escalate.

All the best,
Andrew.

 

If a member posts details about how to buy a product from a non-advertiser is that permitted? It should be, as long as the member has no financial interest in the transaction or the product. It’s about sharing information, not promotion.

 

The non-advertiser in question has been invited to discuss the situation with the site staff. I am not staff, I'm a volunteer moderator. Please give them time to talk and stop trying to find a way around the moderation action.

All the best,
Andrew.

 

I’m not trying to find a way around moderation. Members frequently share commercial information such as where to have a car inspected or serviced, or how to buy a particular part. I’m just wondering if members are prohibited from referring others to non-advertiser vendors.

It would be a shame if that is the case, but based on many posts I don’t think it is the case,

 

Independent product reviews or suggestions are OK. Self-promotion ("self" includes friends, family, employees, and sock puppets) are not OK.

 

No, they are not. However, determinations will be made by the moderators about whether those referrals are trying to circumvent the removal of a vendor's own promotion.

I am very hopeful that recently removed material (which is fascinating) can be reposted with the appropriate site permissions by the vendor directly. Until then, it is best for everyone that we leave this issue alone to give them time to talk and reach an agreement. We don't want to muddy the waters and make that ideal outcome more difficult to achieve.

All the best,
Andrew.

 

2022 Dino Compendium can now be ordered. At Euro 380.- it is more than double the first edition (Euro 160.-). I guess this is called inflation.

https://www.dino-book.com/

I have no commercial interest in this!

 

It's actually 440 Euros, because 60 Euros will be added automatically for shipping.

Marcel Massini

 

Ordered x 2

 

From your experience what would the financial investment be to re-create the 1959 Ferrari Yearbook with the correct 'look' (if not the smell ) and 'REPRINT' on the back cover? Any thought on how many copies might be sold? Thank you.

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