Michael Masi gets fired/replaced?

Exactly, its amazing some users cant see how obvious it is that Masi over stepped his authority.

 

I still believe Canada 2019 will never be topped!

 

Masi didn't overstep his authority, the regulations clearly gave him the right to do what he did, and the track stewards agreed with his interpretation, along with the understanding that the teams requested a green flag finish, when safe to do so. This has been explained a billion times.

 

Anybody but LH is why...................rules dont matter as long as that is validated for them lol

 

All races come down to tire strategy. We've been seeing tire strategy all season. Why all the contreversy and FIA investigation after Abu Dhabi tire strategy?

 

The reality is that if the FIA wasn't putting out race control transmissions in real time during the race, the whole Abu Dhabi end would've been a non story.

When Toto's transmission of "MICHAEL! NO, NO! THIS IS SO NOT RIGHT, MICHAEL!" was being played, just as Max had overtaken Hamilton, it colored the casual and non fans perception that something horribly unfair and corrupt had just taken place. It also riled up Hamilton's supporters in the media. Without that, the end would've just been a heartbreaker for Hamilton's supporters, and the sour grape protests afterwards would've been largely ignored.

This is the reason why Mosley and Ecclestone did not allow communications between race control and Whiting to go out over TV broadcast, even when it would've helped spice things up for F1 during lean years. They knew the teams would exploit it. They had heard how the teams behaved on the radio to control, and knew tons of officiating decisions would be made into a complete media circus that would hurt the sport, particularly when front runners were involved.

Just as what's happening now.

For the love of god, keep communications between the teams and race control PRIVATE.

 

I have a strong feeling deep down that if it were Leclerc/Ferrari who got robbed a championship, the same people who claim Masi was faultless would be singing a different tune.

 

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Vettel got a win stolen from him in Canada 19'. Total BS call where Vettel was punished for something tons of drivers do without a penalty.

We hated, it sucked, but we moved on. Wrong as the stewards were, they stuck to their guns, even in error. Because how can the drivers have respect for them if they reverse themselves under a little pressure? There is a reason why official decisions made during the race are not appealable. It turns the sport into a ****ing circus to even entertain the idea.

 

Ferrari fans also let the 2019 Austrian GP incident go pretty quickly, and that would've been Leclerc's first ever win and Ferrari's first win that season.

 

Hamilton got plenty of penalties which cost him races. I'm talking specifically about Abu Dhabi situation. If it was Leclerc, no way the tifoso would praise Masi's faultless officiating as some do now.

 

Imagine if Ferrari demanded an investigation and Vettel threatened retirement, unless the FIA added ten seconds back to his time in Canada 19'.

Just the suggestion of such a thing would've prompted people to ask whether Ferrari leadership was mentally stable.

 

absolutely.

 

The only penalty I can think of that cost Hamilton a race is Spa 08', where the penalty was actually called for, because he did cut the course to gain an advantage and he did not properly give it back.

The backlash in the British media crying that it was the most unfair decision ever, scared future stewards into being very reluctant to give Hamilton serious penalties. I can think of dozens and dozens of incidents where Hamilton collided with a driver, illegally gained an advantage, or even did things that were dangerous, and escaped penalty that other drivers would not have.

Germany 18', anyone? Mercedes just illegally standing in the pitlane to fake a stop for over 3 laps, then when the SC comes out, Ham illegally cuts across the pitlane entry line to avoid getting caught out, and escapes with but a warning? Blatant as day.. Yeah, tell me Vettel, Alonso, or Verstappen would've gotten away with that ****.

 

The radio transmissions of Toto protesting "Michael, no!" and "No, Michael, no! This is so not right!" during the safety car, and then as the overtake on Hamilton was completed, totally colored not just the viewer perception, but also some pundits it seems.

 

Yep.

And don't forget the extremely biased British newspapers that to this day are running with the same ''robbed'' story.

It's how fake news is created. Repeat something enough times and it becomes fact.

The same newspapers rehashing this last week released ''new radio transmissions found prove Masi did exactly as Red bull asked'' as their headline...despite the audio being available a few days on F1's own youtube channel! Now they're running with a new story, quoting William Storey (the serial liar and scam artist with the non-existent energy drinks company), who claimed to have had dinner with a bunch of F1 engineers (???) who all claimed that the FIA should hand Lewis the title as it's only fair. People actually believe a single word coming out of his mouth, but also that he somehow managed to get a bunch of F1 engineers together who all happen to have the same train of thought...incredible. Yet these same newspapers are quoted constantly in why Lewis was "robbed". Factless, click bait opinion articles does not make anything a fact.

 

So why are they having an investigation? if every thing is all good and dandy, why the controversy? how come mhe might lose hsi job if he didnt do any ting wrong?

Is it normal for people to be under threat from losing a job for doing whats right? Surely not, thats preposterous

 

My concern going forward is that even if one makes the communications between race control and the teams private, the precedent set by this controversy is already set in stone. There will be an avoidance at F1 race control to not penalize drivers with celebrity status, or social media following, for fear of personal harassment from their fanbases. They'll make no call, instead of risking making one that upsets a large fanbase, and that could create anarchy during the races like during NASCAR events.

 

The meltdown in the media and in Hamilton mania, nothing else.

Hamilton's "I'm victim when things don't go my way" act in public has done it again.

And since we're asking questions: why didn't Mercedes go forward with a final appeal to the FIA? I thought they were principled? Or is because they knew they didn't have a leg stand on, and they'd rather just turn F1 into a circus when they don't win?

 

Is it why you and a few others keep hammering the same message again and again?

This thread has become the "Bas and Kimi2007 Show" !

Do you realise how ridiculous this has become ?

 

whiting stated that it had never happened before and therefore there was no precedent to rely on-ergo no penalty as he rejoined safely. Hamilton fans had no problem with that and Ferrari fans were told to deal with it.
Under that rationale given the unique circumstances of the last race Masi made the choice of letting them race. Hamilton fans need to deal with it.
As an aside what shocked me was Hamilton’s atrocious defending skills. Having a dominant car for so long-and no Rosberg as a teammate-it was apparent to me that he’d forgotten how to defend for even one lap on a tight circuit.

In any event I checked this morning-as I do every morning- and Max was still the WDC and MB still the WCC.

 

Do I need to remind you what you posted initially?

Then you spend many posts to defend the bloke !!!

It's hilarious really !!!

 

Hamilton's tires actually held up well on the long straights. The thing is, Hamilton was totally panicking. First he ran wide at turn 4, then he left the door open at turn 5 so wide, a truck could've driven by him. It was a huge mistake on his part, and I don't think it would've mattered what tires Max had on. We all saw Hamilton was screwing up as his brake light came on, and the inside line was wide open. If you watch Hamilton's onboard, he checks his mirrors too little, too late, and realizes what he's done in all his panic.

The irony is that given how well the pace of the Mercedes still was on the long straights vs the Red Bull, I'm doubtful Max would've been able to make a pass around the outside, had Hamilton not left the door open at turn 5.

 

But the drivers and teams were confused during the SC period. This happed before the media response. So how can the media be the cause of the drivers confusion?

 

And yet you coming back for more yourself. Like a monkey pressing a button that shocks him, you just can't stop.