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  1. ricksb

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    I think "at the moment" is the key phrase that renders George's statement accurate. i.e. "At the moment, both McLaren and Ferrari are posting faster times in testing..."
     
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  2. 20000rpm

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    You know George is taller than the rest of the pack for a reason. Probably you will find the secret for his height ;)
     
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  3. jgonzalesm6

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    HAAS has removed the Uralkali sponsorship logos on the cars and its trucks....to include the colors as well.

    The VF-22 will run in a plain white livery on day 3 of testing.
     
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    This shows the absurdity of not having open testing before the season begins. This isn't saving any money, and it means the cars start the season not properly developed and prepared. If one of these cars goes out of control because of the porpoising, and the driver is injured or killed, the FIA and F1 will have the blood on their hands. Mandatory halo devices but no opportunity to really test and develop the cars? What a joke.
     
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    Bring in Michael and Mario and an American driver and let's see what they can do.
     
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  6. 20000rpm

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    Does this Uralkali-Haas issue has any bearing on Ferrari, atleast in testing given that Haas uses majority of components from Ferrari.
     
  7. jgonzalesm6

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    Yep, so Ferrari data collects from Ferrari-engined cars i.e HAAS and Alfa Romeo. The less laps, the less data collection.
     
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    It might be way to early for Andretti to come in. These are unforeseen circumstances.
     
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    I’m surprised at the porpoising issue. It’s as if none of the F1 teams thought to google ‘problems for ground effect cars’… This is not a new phenomenon. History can teach a lot - even in the rarefied field of F1. They will get it sorted in time for next test.
     
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    Yep, the 1980's saw the same effect.
     
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    Day 3 after the lunch break, track officials will wet the track for wet tires testing.
     
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    I suppose if teams plan to run some fast times, it will happen in the morning.
     
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    Possibly....but we rarely see "fast" times during testing.

    Depends on what your interpretation of "fast" times is. Do you mean quali times?? No, we won't see those times. In fact, no one at this moment is going to show their hand this early in testing.
     
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    Not quali times. But full lap on attack with softer range of tires. No low fuel, and likely not full power.
     
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    hehehehhehehehe...i can assure you guys i was nowhere near that car, still in Portugal behind my computer....
     
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    I find it incredible that F1 engineers never gave consideration to porpoising bearing in mind the massive problems teams encountered in the 80's. It really does show that no amount of wind tunnel testing is no substitute for on track data collection. Creating huge GE is the easy bit, controlling it is another and early pioneers of GE soon realised that

    The solution & from memory, the early GE cars had to run suspension that was almost non existent to prevent heave in the X axis. However with the large Pirelli tyres this may not now be possible. Changing the pivot pick up point can increase spring rate but doubt that will solve the issue. Teams with pushrod suspension may be able to trim out some of this, those with pullrod are going to find it harder IMHO.

    In this guise these cars, as others have mentioned, are extremely unpredictable. If that happens in a high speed corner then the result will be a big shunt.
     
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    HAAS update

    Steiner will let us know about the legal issues regarding Nikita Mazepin's seat by next week.
     
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    GE cars previous had big shunts. Hence the move away from this GE style car at the time. Now we relearn the compromises with it again. No sim will help this and the variability of all tracks cannot be simulated well enough to cover all corners/changes/bumps and other minor imperfections all tracks exhibit.
     
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