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  1. JTSE30

    JTSE30 F1 Rookie

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    Indeed,

    and now, it is starting to looking the "dreaded" Euro 7 emissions rules will never happen and only a tweaking of Euro 6 rules...

    https://europe.autonews.com/environmentemissions/euro-7-pollution-rules-pushed-back-again-worrying-advocacy-lobbying-groups

    https://www.acea.auto/publication/acea-proposals-for-euro-7-and-euro-vii-emission-standards/

    https://www.infineuminsight.com/en-gb/articles/passenger-cars/euro-7-edges-closer/
     
    JTSE30, Feb 21, 2022
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  2. Newjoint

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    I think the pandemic has thrown a wrench into everything. The powers that be in Europe may be realizing Euro-7 may kill what automobile manufacturing they have left.


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    Newjoint, Feb 22, 2022
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  3. ACW44

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    As per the Ferrari Corporate 2021 Results Presentation, - "order books stronger than ever, covering well into 2023 (bottom of Page 8). Not sure how Marcel gets 27,000 from this? Maybe 18,000 for the next year and a half? 27,000 would take us well into 2024 ? At current production levels.
     
    ACW44, Feb 22, 2022
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  4. JTSE30

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    Marcel is closer to the factory and is likely aware of details not publicized by corporate presentations...
     
    JTSE30, Feb 22, 2022
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  5. babgh

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    Definitely agree and most govt officials are idiots and try to be relevant by mandating stupid new laws/policies/rules that tend to antagonize the old technology and want to accelerate the newer and "greener" tech but not doing extensive research about it. As if EVs carbon footprint is cleaner compared to conventional ICE powered vehicles.
     
    babgh, Feb 24, 2022
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    maha, Feb 24, 2022
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    Hahahahaha, told you so!

    Next in line will be the UK government especially post Brexit. The size of the car industry in UK is material and UK is in no position to take a financial and political hit of this magnitude (irrespective of whichever party is ruling).
     
    [gTr], Feb 25, 2022
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  8. Shack

    Shack F1 Rookie Owner Silver Subscribed

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    Blanket bans are stupid and a supposed "quick fix" - They have unintended consequences. I hope the industry fights these bans with appropriate technology otherwise we will all be driving boring EV's - and that's a sad situation to contemplate.
     
    Shack, Feb 25, 2022
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    Agreed! Really never made sense to me that the ICE magic that give them billions in exports/revenue they would so easily toss away. Now everyone seems to be coming to good senses... I still believe electrification of the car world is decades away and should happen via competitive forces versus political policies. So many countries out there seriously lack the infrastructure to power them..
     
    uhn2000, Feb 25, 2022
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  10. maha

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    was it really a test-bed for the daytona sp3? previously some spotters stated that, this 488 is a mule for next gen v12. or actually there is no such thing as ''next gen v12''
     
    maha, Feb 26, 2022
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    JTSE30, Feb 26, 2022
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    looks like mule was from November 2020?

    at 5m45s:


    And probably was test for SP3, the engine in the SP3 is the same as the 812C

    they fired Leiters, I doubt there is much new V12 engine work in-progress and based on the 'EV future' any update to the V12 would seem to only be inclusion of a hybrid drive probably limited to an electric motor at the flywheel (for any possible 812 successor)
     
    JTSE30, Feb 26, 2022
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    can they fire the Ferrari 'fashion show' people and use the money to bring back Leiters as a consultant? :D
     
    of2worlds, Feb 26, 2022
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    JTSE30, Feb 26, 2022
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    I would advise against jumping the gun. Leiter's sacking doesn't mean that Ferrari isn't intereste in the V12 anymore. Fchat is such a drama-queen forum...
     
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    maha, Feb 27, 2022
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    Mickyd329, Feb 28, 2022
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    U-Boat Commander, Feb 28, 2022
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    JTSE30, Feb 28, 2022
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    maybe in future ferrari owners will be forced to wear/buy those
     
    maha, Feb 28, 2022
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    Mickyd329 you are correct, no future allocations unless you dress the part.
     
    thx enzo, Feb 28, 2022
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    Thats me out.
    Nothing they make fits me!
     
    Wheels1, Feb 28, 2022
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  24. babgh

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    some people at ferrari might not know the difference between ferrari and alphatauri(no hate on the team I actually like them more compared to red bull) as both has scuderia(aka team) in their f1 guise lol
     
    babgh, Mar 1, 2022
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