Gated f430 worth making a move to given premium

What other gated cars have you driven, a 993 Porsche?

 

I found that the manual box was more enjoyable at typical road speeds. There's more connection, and as a driver one has more to perfect - something that I find rewarding.

 

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cant go wrong with either, but in stick it has that emotional X factor that manuals give you

 

I think you would like it then. I converted the F1 to manual. It's not an "easy" manual to drive like the 996 Turbo.

Is the play for value holding vs F1 or for the driving enjoyment? There is a lot of things that could need work on an unknown car vs the one you already have.

 

Way more fun when out to push it. I find myself taking the 996 Turbo instead on more mundane drives since the F430 manual takes more precision to drive now and can't lazily drive around with cup of coffee. The clutch travel to engage/disengage is tiny but I think on purpose. Fast rev up also means fast drop down so need to always blip the throttle etc.

 

Like you said a sorted F1 is great. Almost like having two cars since you can take off the AUTO mode when you hit the open roads/curves and be aggressive.....all in the same drive. I really enjoy the conversion but I think the F430 is no longer a "daily driver"

 

When driving flat out the F1 is fun, maybe even more fun then a manual but for all other situations the manual is far superior. The F1 system is dreadful when cruising and driving around in any form of populated area. It’s jerky and slips the clutch. It limits the experience and makes the drive tense because you’re constantly trying to minimize the jerkiness.

 

unless the OP is looking at the experience from a collectability perspective, my advice wld be find the nicest f1 you can and then convert it, fwiw. 12K under market is still a good chunk of change, if market is around 300K

 

not even a question, just do it

 

F1 is easy to daily since you can drive it one-handed. Load up 40lb salt bags in the passenger seat, no prob for a pizza run etc. Not going to accidentally stall if making a weird turn while navigating a badly designed drive-through. Might just be a personal issue since the 996TT 6 speed makes you feel like an skilled driver when half paying attention. Probably 996TT dual mass flywheel helping me out. To me the F430 manual drives like the 993TT manual.

 

Never drove a gated 360, but gated 430 flywheel is lightest I ever felt. You can easily downshift at cruising speeds without rev matching, won’t disturb the car, unlike every Porsche I’ve driven. I don’t do it though, out of principle!

Both f1 and gated are great in 430, but very different. I am biased but I fully recommend gated for pure fun. I notice that I upshift on purpose before corners so I can just fire off downshifts on entry. Never gets old.

150k is a bargain, close to prepandemic pricing. If major maintenance and upgrades up to date, would be perfect car for racking up miles guilt free (and maybe even monetarily free!)

 

Don’t know if 993tt transmission feel is much different from my 993 c4s. My impression of c4s is it works just as well cold as hot, but is somewhat rubbery, and has some play. Play is not noticeable until u compare with a gated f car.

For 430, 2nd really crunches in the cold, def skip until warm, but once warm it’s precise, very light, slick, just a slight notchiness from 3 to 4.

I guess there must be large variation between gated 430 gearbox performance. I saw one 2021 video of a guy test driving a black gated 430 at Autosports designs, and he was really struggling with the gearbox. Can’t find the video anymore, he must have taken down. Mine definitely is not like that, it’s a pleasure to run through the gate.

 

If you update the shift linkage in the 993 to a goldenrod from FD Motorsports will completely change the feel. The 993 was designed with a rubber bit on the shift linkage that degrades with age. It makes the shifter feel "rubbery and vague". The goldenrod is an inexpensive part and it completely changes the experience.

I find even when warm you need to much more deliberate shifting the F car (I have a 360). The 993 is just intuitive and effortless - you never miss a shift in the 993. Ironically, the overall handling feel of the car is opposite. The 993 drives "deliberately" while the F car is effortless.

I'd buy a gated 430 in a second at $150K if it passed inspection. That transaction has a high probability of working out well over time.

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That price is WAY below market even with the miles. There are very few things in life in the clear no-brainer category… this is one of them. Do it!


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