The F50 Thread

Not quite

 

are there any unregistered f40/288's ?

 

I was thinking

288 - $3.5m
F40 - $2.5m
F50 - $5.0m
Enzo - $5.0m
LaF - $4.0m

Do you have the asks for each?

 

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I bought a GTO around 13 years, it was unregistered in the US as per the document.. The GTO is still un registered, Joe helped find this for me.. it was worth waiting for.

 

57223 was originally registered on Italian tourist license plates "EE 087 AK", the letters "EE" stand for "Escursionisti Esteri", which is foreign tourists.
Morris Kessler in Montebello, CA/USA, was the original owner. Here's a photo of 57223 I took 1 June 1990 in Watkins Glen. Note Ansa trumpet exhaust and spare wheels fitted for transport.
10 August 2010 it was sold to Mr. "msn".

Marcel Massini

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Thank you Marcel for the fabulous photo, so I imagine it is still registered on the EE plates some where, maybe still in Italy, as Morris did not register it, I also have not registered it.

 

Paul:
Once Morris exported 57223 to USA the Italian EE license plates were officially cancelled. They are no longer valid. Morris never registered the car in the U.S. but must have paid U.S. import duty and taxes as he kept it for 25 years (June 1985 to August 2010).

Marcel Massini

 

Marcel, yes he did pay the US duties on the car but never registered it in the US.

 

Do i understand it right, the car has delivery miles to this day?

 

No, it has approximately 2,200 miles, 3,362 Klm

 

So in the past six years 57223 was driven less than 100 miles?
I remember that in September 2016 it showed 3'362 kms (2'101 miles).

Marcel Massini

 

Yes Marcel, it was in Storage at Cars Europe until 2015, the car has sat in my Private collection, ever since, it is serviced every 2 years at Barkaways, Ian Barkaway collects the car on a trailer, services the GTO and returns it back to me at home..
My enjoyment has been the art of the GTO, not the drive.. I know some feel thats wrong, but my whole collection has been based in this ethos.

 

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Leno discovered how nice the F50's gearbox is.

 

I know David Lee is extremely enthusiastic and all of that but I wish he would do a bit more homework before he appears in these Leno vids because he often confidently says a lot of wrong information when discussing the cars. Some quite basic facts, too.

 

The hard top/convertible part was so cringe

 

Not to intentionally continue to take this thread off-topic but it was a slow process to convince Morris to sell 57223 @ 13 years ago.

First of all we invited hm to our 25th anniversary 288 GTO Reunion and he obliged by bringing the GTO to the event. Then after chatting with him at the event, I spoke to him at length over the phone and finally convinced him to sell having owned it for 25 years.

Your timing was impeccable as that car would have sold within days once he had agreed to sell.

Incidentally, we have sold and number of 288 GTOs which retained their original Certificato D'Origine's, here below is the one that accompanied GTO 57493 which was built for legendary Los Angeles Times publisher and big game hunter Otis Chandler. This Certificato does not have the USA disclaimer on it, I'm not sure how Otis got around that - I'll check the others as well.

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Without going into it too much, I think it's been discussed before on other parts of the forum, David seems far more interested in using Ferraris to market himself than actually being invested in them like owners here are. I mean, the man once said Marcel was wrong about his 250 Lusso.

 

No, not quite

 

The only thing I wished he did was a liiiittle bit more homework, but Leno could just as easily be accused of the same when it comes to the Ferraris in his show (impolite to correct your guests, I guess). And the only reason I say that is because this is the info a lot of people will go on, especially the smaller details, and with a properly produced web series, it's not that hard to drop in titles correcting wrong info and such. Even Harry Metcalfe does it in his videos, particularly when he gets small things wrong.

As for David himself, I think just the fact he drives the cars and shares them not only with people like Jay Leno but also regular folk is very cool, and commendable, and I think it shows he is quite emotionally invested in his cars, just not in an anoraky sort of way. So if he wants to use that in order to promote his business it's totally fine by me as long as it's not hurting anyone. (As an illustration, see the video on his channel where he takes a man recently diagnosed with cancer for a ride and drive in the Lusso)

 

Out of curiosity, why did you use the word 'even' when referring to Harry?

 

This seems to be the popular consensus in the car community based on the volume of content out on social media, that said, on balance he's also considered by many to be a good ambassador for the cars.

Agreed, sharing the cars is commendable and an essential part of the ownership experience, although I will say some of us and many of our clients do this regularly without it ever appearing on social media.

 

Sorry, I only meant to convey Harry has a much more limited production budget than Leno, seems like he's doing it pretty much by himself, and *even* he manages to drop titles in to correct his occasional blunders.

Did not mean to imply he isn't a very very knowledgeable guy who has a great passion for cars. His channel is my favorite in all of youtube for car content.