F1 Bahrain Test - 10-12 March 2022

remember when MB does it it’s innovative and novel, when others do it it’s against the spirit of the rules. I fear the only fight this year won’t be on the track…

 

What's up, Chuck . . .

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That's a partisan view.

Any team that wants to beat Mercedes and be Number One has simply to work harder.

That's the spirit of competition; you don't slow down the one ahead, you try to catch him !

I couldn't care less who wins, but efficiency, that I like a lot !

 

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Rubbish and utterly. SO Mercedes tried something different. I applaud. Same for any team. If other teams dont like it thats what the appeal process is for. Yet we have Karen Horner after barely 30 minutes flapping his idiot mouth to the press that something is illegal yesterday. How does he know. I would not say that about RedBull or Ferrari if its shown on TV etc after a few minutes. I would be curious if it would work!!!!

Horner and RedBull came off like the idiots they are having to retract and lie nothing was said.

--Respected German publication Auto Motor und Sport soon quoted Red Bull team principal Christian Horner as having questioned the legality of the design and the spirit in which it was conceived. The team’s communications department then moved to deny Horner had spoken to any media, or if he had, it wasn’t for public consumption…---

RedBull the PATHETIC again. Good to see nothing changes in Toxic Bull World.

 

How dare you want a Ferrari to be fastest? I mean this is Ferrarich....wait.

 

Red bull denied this was said. AMUS still hasn't posted audio/video to confirm otherwise? Funny how you get upset when Horner has allegedly said something, but when Binotto claims concerns with the wing mirror mounting...crickets.

 

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https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/mercedes-f1-car-borrows-a-few-tricks-from-rocket-technology/8895120/

Mercedes F1 car borrows "a few tricks" from rocket technology
Formula 1 chief technical officer Pat Symonds says that a "few little tricks" in cooling have allowed Mercedes to pursue its dramatic new aerodynamic package with its W13.
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By: Adam Cooper
Mar 11, 2022, 4:59 AM
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Symonds explained that technology derived from the aerospace industry has helped Mercedes to package an ultra-efficient cooling system that has enabled it to create the narrow sidepod arrangement unveiled on the first day of the Bahrain test.

The main architect of the 2022 regulations, Symonds admitted that he hadn't anticipated such a dramatic interpretation of the rules.

"This is a very novel approach," he said in an interview with F1 TV's Ted Kravitz.

"I like to see novel interpretations. I have to say it's not one that I'd expected to see. And I'm still really impressed at how they're getting the air through to cool the car, but they obviously are.

"I think it will have got their rivals sort of going back to the rulebook with their red pencil, and seeing just what they've done."

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Symonds admitted that when his team of engineers wrote the rules and created a full-size model of the 2022 car, they anticipated a requirement for larger radiator inlets.

"I guess it was just a little bit more radical than we thought," he said.

"As we developed the aerodynamics of this set of regulations, obviously, we looked at lots of things, not just downforce producing, but we had to look at brake cooling, had to look at tyre heating. And particularly, we had to look at engine cooling.

"And we were using a bigger inlet than that [on the W13] to get the cooling. I think on the Mercedes, they have a few little tricks in there that help them in this respect.

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George Russell, Mercedes W13

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"For example the intercooler, is a very, very neat device. It's a water/air intercooler, which of course Mercedes have had for a little while, but I think this is a little bit different.

"And that's why they can really shrink wrap this car a little bit more than most of the others can."

Expanding on what Mercedes had done, he added: "The intercooler that I was talking about comes from Reaction Engines in Oxfordshire, the people who are doing this sort of air-breathing rocket motor, and the sort of spin-off from that has been this really extremely efficient heat exchanger technology.

"I think that's part of the reason why they've been able to produce the car the way they have."

Symonds stressed that all teams have honed their packaging to make sidepods as small as possible.

"One of the trends we're seeing, and it's not particular to these new regulations, but we're seeing that it's very, very difficult to start to package everything into the sidepods," he said.

"People think what's in the sidepods, surely it's only the radiators, the heat exchangers?

"But of course, there's a lot more, there's a lot of electronics in there. I think some people are moving that electronics into that keel area."

 

HAAS granted extra time on Saturday . . .

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Some denials are more potent than an admission of guilt.

 

Binotto didnt run to the press immediately and then have the team withdraw the input. He specified it should be reviewed. Why not, if he feels that given Ferrari were forced to change a system like that in the past. No one called for RedBull's innovative car in Barcelona illegal upon display.

Again Horner spoke to Michael Schmidt. Its confirmed.

Binotto was a touch more diplomatic and not using the word illegal. Horner could use a few lessons --

Ferrari team principal Mattia Binotto also raised questions about the Mercedes design.

"No doubt it is a great car - that should not be a surprise to us," he said. "A concept quite different to ours, quite interesting with the cooling layout, and the sidepods.

"On the mirrors, it was surprising - we were not expecting that. We always said the mirror should have no aero[dynamic] purpose and the way they treated their cars there is a significant aero purpose in the mirrors.

"The risk in the future is that all teams will start designing mirrors that look like spaceships. In the spirit of what we intend to do for the future, it is something we need to discuss."

 

Official now? As a couple of teams protested it yesterday...

 

If someone claims someone else said something, who denies it was said, it's up to the person that made it up to proof something was said. It's not up to the person who was accused to proof otherwise.

 

Again, provide the audio/video of said interview where horner says it's illegal. AMUS can point to written word as much as they like, but fake news quite easily created that way.


aMuS claims that horner said the Mercedes was against the spirit of the rules, that was their original quote. The rest manipulates the quite that Horner said it was outright illegal.

Binotto quite literally claims exactly the same.

How can you have a problem with one and not the other? It's either both, or none.

 

Yeah, it's official.

Teams protested yesterday for Sunday practice for HAAS.

 

There is nothing "efficient" about Mercedes spend since 2007

 

This !
The only real question mark.

 

That W13 is still porpoising badly down the straight.

 

KMAG on track, times don't mean anything, but his first timed lap is just quicker than HAM "sandbagging" Mercedes.

 

Red Bull updates being put on at the moment.

 

And Williams out as tehy can't repair in time. That was quite predictable early on.

 

In such case it's better to say nothing. That's the best way to kill a hearsay.

Who lives by the media can expect to be crucified by the media.

Horner has exploited the media remorselessly in recent years, that's dangerous for credibility.

 

Hamilton should take this advice

 

SAINZ into P1!