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F1 Bahrain Test - 10-12 March 2022

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  1. furoni

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    You mean Ferrari Shumacher?
     
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    If I remember correctly, Gordon Murray tried "surface cooling" on one of the Brabham F1 he designed.
    It didn't quite worked as he intended and radiators soon appeared on the car.
    I am wondering if Mercedes designers haven't exploited that idea, even partially.
    The surface cooling concept started with Harry Miller who tested it on his Indianapolis cars early last century.
    It came back in the aircraft industry during WWII on the wings of some prototypes.

    I don't know if water is imposed as engine coolant in F1.
     
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    15:26 The Sainz vs Verstappen moment did demonstrate how close the drivers could follow each other in the new generation of cars, which is very encouraging for the season ahead.

    Sainz looking really good as is the car!
     
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    No idea to be honest...not sure when that was said?
     
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    Yeah, but the commentators are using the words "space-age" cooling.

    Whether it's something used in spacecraft in the 60's and 70's during the Apollo, Mercury & Gemini to include the Saturn 5 space programs OR during the Shuttle years???
     
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    Via Autosport feed -
    --15:15 Hamilton responds to Verstappen's lap with a 1m34.141s on the C5s to go third overall, around a tenth quicker than the Red Bull, but was 13km/h down on the straight. What does it all mean?--

    Seems on the surface the Mercedes is quicker a touch through corners?? Hmmmmmmmm...........

    Overall Mercedes and RedBull are both struggling for now, twitch in rear and understeer evident. Ferrari is just fairly well sorted and getting the laps in!
     
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    New tires and less wing for LH on his next go...........
     
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    C4 on Max now 2nd. Faster and faster. We see performance now!
     
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    The WCC goes to the team, which is both the chassis and engine builder.

    WTF?
     
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    Yes, it's probably the same thing: using the flow of air to cool external panels used as radiators.

    Interesting to see that Mercedes are the first in bringing that technology to F1.

    Proof, if one was needed, that they are not resting on their laurels, but always trying to improve.

    If successful, expect all they other teams to follow them next year !!!
     
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    Yes, you are right.

    I know Honda contributed to the wins, but really the car was designed, built and operated by McLaren.

    It's McLaren strategy, pit work, testing that brought so many wins.

    The importance of the chassis builder is more that the engine supplier, IMO.

    We can see it now, with Mercedes supplying teams with different chassis that don't get the same results.
     
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    1978 BT-46. The car was going to use "heat exchangers" in lieu of traditional radiators but it didn't work and they switched to traditional radiators; this in turn led to the infamous "fan car'. Jesus that was almost 45 years ago and I remember it clearly. Another feature was that the car used brakes that were similar to the Concord aircraft. This was all done before carbon fiber.....
     
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    Do you really believe Mercedes customers have the same engine software ?
     
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    I'm thinking fewer sandbags tomorrow-but not all. then they will all go back and make refinements etc.

    The green flag drops next week, meaning the bs stops then.
     
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    Worst scenario for us and unfortunately the most probable is :
    The Mercedes is a rocketship, they know this already and their only goal is sandbagging like never before.
    Really hope i'm wrong ..
     
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    If you're Ferrari, you can't complain. Car handles great, consistent, near the top without glory runs, good straight-line speed, close to simulations, no drama on any runs, and the drivers enjoy the cars.

    Could Mercedes be sandbagging? Sure. They are. But I interpret Sainz's remarks to mean that Ferrari are aware of it via GPS tracking, and are likely sandbagging some themselves.

    It's impossible to say who will be ahead come Q3, but right now if you wanted to be anytime, you'd rather be Ferrari. Just because Mercedes have played possum well in the past doesn't mean they've got a rocket ship. These are new rules and cars for everybody, not just the other teams. Mercedes are in the dark, too.

    Frankly, Mercedes didn't look so hot out there for all the fears, but who knows come race day.
     
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    Magnusses 3 tenths up on Sainz' fastest time
     
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    I was a bit surprised that Symonds mentioned that. Isn't he part of the FIA oversight structure now, reviewing technical matters from the teams? If that is the case, it seems like he's offering hints there that Merc might see as confidential.
     
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    So true!!! Im ready!
     
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    Ross needs to crack it open and poke around
     
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    Well.........we hope so..........

    Symonds: F1 has made a “breakthrough” on following with 2022 cars
    Formula 1 chief technical officer Pat Symonds is convinced that the new 2022 cars represent a “breakthrough” in following and overtaking.
     

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