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I was wondering the same question mark .. Better to question the Ferrari/Haas cooperation for the FIA !
I think Mercedes benefited of favourable circumstances and exploited them to the full. They didn't create them. They became successful once the hybrid formula started, so were accused of having initiated it, for example. For years they have turned out very competitive cars thanks to sound engineering and an efficient design team. To compound that, they have good management, a stable drivers pairing plus good strategy and slick pit work. Of course, the underlying reason for that success is the enormous resources and almost unlimited budget they benefited. During that time, the other teams were in constant turmoil, with change of owners, excessive staff turn-over, drivers issues, chronic reliability problems, etc ... But Mercedes won't stay at the top for ever, and the cracks began to show in 2021. they started making mistakes. The budget cap is probably one of the reasons for the decline, but it's coming. Mercedes isn't a team that will accept the lack of success for long in F1; if they feel they can't win, they will leave, surely.
I always find it remarkable that the core of HAM fans and Ferrari haters spend so much time in a FERRARI chat site. I think the word for that is: troll.
deflect, deflect , deflect the 2019 racing point team was a clone of the MB and the FIA stayed silent other than some brake duct bs.
Yeah, I don’t get that comment about the most illegal car. Maybe because it’s pink? LOL. About cars changing a lot—we’ve already seen RBR, Merc and Alpine with new sidepods—it would seem that all the teams have created designs that will allow them to develop the aero as much as possible through the year as they get to grips with their new cars.
Favorable circumstances or favoritism? Engine development advantages early on and secret Pirelli tire tests suggest the latter. You can’t be objective while leaving these events out of the narrative.
Well he is a 7-times WC and the standout driver of his era (and possibly of any era) so I guess it's not surprising that F1 fans would be obsessed with him ;-)
Yes I remember it well, but I think VER is a bit more sophisticated these days. It would be great if Ferrari really do have a contender car. Only a few more days until we find out for sure.
What engine development advantage? Some car manufacturers started researching hybrid technology years ago. Mercedes was one of them and applied the knowledge acquired to the new formula. Yes, they were ahead, but you cannot put the genie back in the bottle. What is surprising is that the 2 other car manufacturers (Renault and Honda) took so long to catch up. You explain 8 years of Mercedes domination with one controversial tyre test, for which the FIA gave the nod ? How long that advantage lasted? Certainly not 8 years ! Be serious !
Let's not be hypocritical here, over the years I have seen as much criticism against Ferrari coming from supporters than from non-tifosi. You have just to revisit the threads posted a few years ago. Massa, Alonso and Vettel were regularly slated, often injustly. The Ferrari management also was regularly attacked, Domenicalli, Mattiaci, Arrivabene and Binotto being blamed for tje lack of success. Ferrari pit work and strategy was also often condemned for poor performance. All this from self-confessed tifosi. There are few if any Ferrari "haters" , only in the head of those who are frustrated that their favourite team don't deliver.
I agree, but most of these threads are just a litanie of personal attacks, malicious inuendoes and criticisms of his off-track activitiess coming from detractors. There is hardly any praise of his achievements, but constant denigration.
First, their early dominance is explained by this: https://www.gptoday.com/details/view/518676/Ecclestone_Mercedes_headstarted_as_they_knew_a_bit_more/ Second, the secret tire test is only one example of fairly consistent funny business with tires. How many times have we seen Pirelli change to compounds which greatly benefit Mercedes? https://www.f1technical.net/news/21626 Let’s be objective here, William.
So, the tifosi are only allowed to smile and say everything is okay when things aren’t going well while fans of rivals come here to rub it in their face? Is that right?
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/how-mclaren-has-addressed-its-f1-brake-problem/9076759/ How McLaren has addressed its F1 brake problem After a solid first pre-season Formula 1 test in Barcelona, McLaren endured a more troubled time in Bahrain last week as its running was hit by brake problems. Image Unavailable, Please Login By: Matt Somerfield Co-author: Giorgio Piola Mar 17, 2022, 10:25 AM Image Unavailable, Please Login The issue was mainly attributed to the design of its front brake assembly, with Lando Norris unable to do more than a few consecutive laps before the brakes overheated. It was an issue that didn't rear its head in Barcelona due to the lower temperatures that the teams were running in at this time of the year. Crucially, however, winter in Spain offers conditions which are unrepresentative when compared to most of the F1 season, so was far away from the requirements of somewhere like a warm Middle East circuit. Having isolated the issue in Bahrain, McLaren set about finding ways to have a solution ready for the race this weekend, even if it's only a temporary fix and a more refined version will follow in the coming weeks. The solution fitted to the MCL36 in Bahrain is a metallic version of the carbon fibre brake disc shroud that the team ran during the first two tests. And, while there's some differences in the shape of the new version spotted in the Sakhir pitlane, the material differences will also play a role in thermal transfer between the brakes, wheel rims and tyres. Image Unavailable, Please Login McLaren MCL36 front brake comparison Photo by: Giorgio Piola The issue for McLaren actually highlights a new and interesting technical battleground that's been forged by these new regulations. While the brake components have been altered by the regulations, so too has the teams' approach to cooling them. The diameter of the brake discs has been increased from 278mm up to 330mm, while the drill holes now have to be at least 3mm, which has limited the number and pattern that the teams will now have in their designs. This comes at the expense of heat dissipation, which is also made more tricky due to the now much larger space afforded in the wheel well, as F1 switches to 18" wheel rims. The switch, along with the introduction of the outer wheel covers and an inability to send airflow out through the wheel face, means teams now have to vent heat created by the brakes out through an outlet housed on the brake duct fence. The larger space created within the brake assembly has led to some interesting new design directions, with McLaren one of the teams that's decided to enclose its brake discs within a shroud, meaning there's a clear path for the transit of the airflow and heat that's created under braking. Similarly, Red Bull has a solution that shrouds the brake disc, albeit with a different material for this purpose and has also packed some insulation around the shroud too. Meanwhile, Alpine hasn't taken the full shroud approach seen on the McLaren and Red Bull but has mounted its brake caliper at the front of the assembly. It has some tear drop-shaped outlets in the carbon fibre cooling housing that will allow the heat rejected by the brake disc to pass through.
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/fia-explains-laser-scanning-system-for-f1-car-scrutineering/9074942/ FIA explains laser scanning system for F1 car scrutineering The FIA has outlined the new laser scanning scrutineering system it will use to examine the legality of Formula 1 cars from the start of the 2022 season. Image Unavailable, Please Login By: Alex Kalinauckas Mar 17, 2022, 9:02 AM Image Unavailable, Please Login Following the move to ground effect cars in the major aerodynamic rules reset the championship has implemented, the governing body has introduced the new scrutineering process to aid with checking the designs the teams will run each weekend with the information they have supplied ahead of each race event. For 2022, the teams will share their CAD data on developments with the FIA, with the laser scans used to check the physical car correlates with that data information. The laser tool, which was evaluated during 2022 pre-season testing, is required because the previous metal cut-outs the FIA used to check aero parts were complying with the prescribed limits where development was and was not permitted under the previous formula are not suitable to use for the new machines. As has been the case in F1 since 2020, the teams provide the FIA with pre-event data on their cars stating they are in compliance with the rules and the cars are then checked throughout the weekend to ensure their physical reality matches. The FIA will now use the laser tool to complete additional random scans throughout race weekends as an added method to ensure the teams are following the rules. Image Unavailable, Please Login FIA Scrutineering area Photo by: Giorgio Piola Physical tests to ensure wing and floor flexing on the cars are legal will still be done on the rigs in the FIA garage at each race, as will checks such as the DRS-opening space measurement. “The aerodynamic regulations have become quite a lot more complex, as it [is] not a matter of deciding whether you are in a box, there are a lot more regulations determining the geometry permissible,” FIA head of single-seater matters, Nikolas Tombazis, said of the new laser scanning system. “Because of that we needed to up the game on checks, so we have gone for a fully electronic state-of-the-art scanning system. “We check the cars on [a] computer to make sure they satisfy all the geometric constraints, and we have done that with all teams, and then we check the physical car against the computer model by scanning the car and that's the process we are using now. “The system consists of a track that detects the position of a device held by one of our scrutineers. We either scan the surface by holding a sensor over the surface or we check specific points on the car which are then check against CAD, on the co-ordinates, and based on those measurements we can draw the final conclusions. “We have two checks: a quick check where we look at basic parameters - width, height, making sure that the car isn't running too low etc - and then we have a more detailed check whereby we scan the whole surface of the car, which takes a bit longer.” Image Unavailable, Please Login FIA Scrutineering area Photo by: Giorgio Piola Tombazis also said the FIA hopes to “eventually do the quick scans on all the cars across a race weekend” but added “we are still learning about the process, especially in a race weekend environment”. He continued: “The more detailed scans will take place on a more random basis, probably a couple of cars per race and that means the team or teams selected won't know they will be scanned, thus promoting compliance. Read Also: Hulkenberg replaces Vettel in Bahrain F1 GP after positive COVID test Alonso: Verstappen "will have less pressure" as reigning F1 champion FIA surprised by variation in F1 sidepod designs under new rules “Clearly if a car does get protested or if we have serious concerns about the legality of a car or a competitor has concerns, then we may individually pick a car to be scanned in order to obtain the information required to deliver a ruling. “So far, the system has been working quite well. There is still quite a lot to learn, but it's a step in the right direction to further improve our capability at the track.” Tickets
Even when MB are caught cheating they skate. https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1084978_fia-reprimands-mercedes-pirelli-for-unauthorized-f1-tire-test Last Friday, the FIA finally determined that an illegal test had been conducted, though it cleared Mercedes AMG as well as drivers Lewis Hamilton and Nico Rosberg to continue the 2013 season without any penalties. However, both Mercedes AMG and Pirelli were reprimanded for the test, with the former receiving a ban from joining other F1 teams for the young driver test session in July. (What a joke) The light sentence, which lawyers for Mercedes AMG had suggested as punishment, was given due to the FIA determining that neither party acted in bad faith. However, the FIA did concede that Mercedes AMG gained a small advantage by now knowing what wouldn’t go wrong using Pirelli’s latest tires. It was a 1000Km test and plenty of data was gathered by both parties. Does anyone think Pirelli shared all the data with the other teams? And people wonder why the FIA (aka "MIA") is MB's flunkie.
It's quite funny because immediately after this illegal test, Mercs performance issues miraculously disappeared and suddenly became front runners. But because no FIA personnel was at the illegal test, they couldn't verify if new parts where tested....even though they rocked up to the next GP with an array of new parts including an experimental, lightweight gearbox casing with revised geometry....quite handy!
Research on hybrid technology started seriously a decade before the formula was adopted. Why Mercedes would have a headstart for working on it already? Bernie is an OK guy, but a bit of a **** stirrer at times. The thing is; paranoia is incurable. Once you explain your shortcomings by accusing your opponents of foul play, you conveniently excuse yourself.
