I agree that was illegal, and went unpunished. But, do you really believe that the information gathered during one test in 2013, will explain 8 years of domination ? Come on, be serious !! Tyre technology is in constant evolution !!!
“They knew more about the proposed power unit because the Mercedes people were in close contact with the FIA in defining the concept of this engine. “This is why they had such a strong start last year and they are keeping that advantage now.” This is not paranoia, William. This is a fact that would only be disregarded if one is delusional.
The tifosi do not troll Ferrari. Let’s not be completely ridiculous here, and even if they do pick on the team, it’s like an older brother picking on a younger brother while protecting him from being picked on by others.
Oh come now. They are squeaky clean and you are just paranoid! Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!
Or sad perhaps? Maybe tragic? Or lonely ? Sad, tragic, lonely, trollish ? Anyway it is perplexing. Perhaps they will do the decent thing and stay of the SF2022 thread?
The technical rules are the same for everyone, and all the teams accept them. Period. What is the FIA supposed to do if a team does a better job? Exclude it ?
I would love to see a duel between Max and Charles with all the drama and a Ferrari victory in the end of course !
If Pirelli worked solely for the benefit of Mercedes, I doubt the other teams would stay quiet about it ! But it's a good accusation to make, isn't it?
Can we stay on the topic? The technical rules that Mercedes created with the FIA were the same for everyone, thus yielding an advantage for Mercedes.
The funny thing is that if you actually go back and read the article, they didn’t stay quiet about it. It’s funny how those complaints always fall on deaf ears unless it’s Mercedes doing the whining.
Yes, that would be good, and you would have something to cheer about instead of crying in your porridge all the time. But be carefull, if you start winning too often, they will accuse you of cheating too !
But why the other teams accepted those rules? When they draw new rules, it's done by concensus. It's not only Mercedes sitting with the FIA, the others participated too. And Ferrari has veto power to oppose changes it doesn't want. Believe me, accusing the winner of cheating when you loose isn't a good tactic.
The tires are but one component but a huge one. Throw in their massive engine advantage-guaranteed by a silly token system and testing bans so that the rest of the field are kept in MB’s now legal review mirrors, the changing of rules mid season (pit stop safety-lol) the sacking of Masi (despite his lenient rulings in favor of MB but for the last one-he was a bad boy!) and I think the MIA is a fitting name for them. I’m curious to see how MB is going to be spared from the cost cutting rules-the creative accounting should be entertaining too.
Mercedes suggested rules. At the time people weren't aware Mercedes was working on such technology since 2007. This only came knowledge after 2014. Not sure what's so hard to grasp about that.
Perhaps, but I still won’t be logging on to a rival forum to attempt to harass those who are down with an air of superiority.
sitting with others doesn’t necessarily make it even. How many teams does MB supply with engines? 4 votes right there. Need 8 out of ten votes to make any real change in the rules. Those three other teams won’t vote against their benefactor.
Let's get one thing clear here: I really don't give a toss about who wins and dominates, but I find it very childish that people can only explain the dominance of one participant by cheating. You can get away with that accusation for one incident, but come on, over 8 years? If tomorrow Red Bull or Ferrari dominates, I will accept it, and not attack their drivers' private life. I like a winner, whoever it is, and don't share your partisan mentality. BTW, Ferrari and Red Bull already had a period of domination.
Point to one example of me saying that they only won by cheating. I have never made that claim. Yes, they did better than everyone else, but to act like they had no assistance along the way and were clean is a study in pure unmitigated foolishness.
So, because one constructor has more technical knowledge and resources than the others, he is cheating? Mercedes must have thousands of engineers, a research department, huge facilities, and a large budget at the time, how can one make abstraction of that? Were they supposed to start their F1 team from a wooden shed with a shoestring budget? Be reasonable.! In terms of facilities and budget, Ferrari is on a par with Mercedes.
Didn't you write that Mercedes forced a set of technical rules on other innocent teams to start and stay ahead ? Who assisted at the debates at the FIA when the rules were decided, if not the engineers from other car manufacturers! It's not like if the hybrid formula was imposed on a group of uneducated morons,, Renault, Ferrari, Honda and some more constructors were present too! It's not that I wish to defend Mercedes, but I find it wrong when the team who does best is accused of cheating because it is successful.
