thought this was worthy of Fchat design gurus... 11 groovy concept cars from the Swinging Sixties - Hagerty Media - and while I'm at it a, 24 via Polestar... (2) Breaking My Silence About Polestar's Design.... O2 Concept Analysis! - YouTube
The non-designer disagrees on the headlights, which make me think of Tesla rather than Polestar: Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login That seems a bit of an own goal. The rest of the design is spectacular though. All the best, Andrew.
Tesla's actual headlights are very different, but the O2's headlights made me think of the Tesla logo. Just strikes me that the distinctive headlights of the O2 would have been better placed on a Tesla than a competitor. All the best, Andrew.
I think Andrew is saying that the Tesla "T" is rotated 90 degrees on the Polestar headlights. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
I really liked the design of the new Batmobile and its a car so.... Links to the designs https://www.instagram.com/p/CbQav-dPN2O/ https://www.instagram.com/p/CbVUg49pMPr/ I couldnt actually find any images i could post here. Only images ive found are the above Instagram ones and its a video so couldnt figure out how to post it here.
On the T-Bird sport roadster's hard tonneau, I think the brilliant part is how it ascends at a moderate angle until about 4" before it meets the bucket seat, then climbs at an alarming angle;. The feeling it gave me when i first saw it in '62 was "What a selfish car" as if to say "We're rich people and can afford to cut off two seats in our car so it's just for us important people up front," like some potentates rent not just a hotel room but the whole damn floor so they won't be bothered by other guests. I think it' a cryin' shame the same tonneau wasn't adapted to the '64 thru '66 convertibles. The one offered by dealers from '64 on did not have the abrupt climb just short of the headrests. Has anyone ever adapted the '62-'63 hard tonneau to '64-'66? Image Unavailable, Please Login
GT3 Beetle? Oh hell ya! Beats sketch-monkey! Image Unavailable, Please Login https://www.designboom.com/design/khyzyl-saleem-vw-beetle-porsche-gt3-03-23-2022/?utm_source=designboom+daily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=sorry+porsche+purists,+khyzyl+saleem+fused+a+VW+beetle+with+a+GT3
I quite like the details, although the overall design is fairly generic premium small SUV (i.e. Porsche Macan competitor?). The tablet dashboard looks a lot more integrated and less of an obtrusive afterthought than most new cars, which is nice. All the best, Andrew.
Stellantis is not being kind to Maserati......maybe they want to get rid of it? Running out of Ferrari cast-off bits and pieces?
I made this meme for something else, but it can easily be used to describe the overwrought sense of design happening in autos Image Unavailable, Please Login
Or getting it ready to sell so that Stellantis can survive. I knew this would be a raw deal for the Italian brands.
Who knew? Where Did the Wedge Design Trend Originate? Most Likely in Detroit With Ray Cannara’s Homebuilt Roadster By Hemmings contributor on Mar 25th, 2022 at 8:15 am In This Article Category: Featured posts [Editor's Note: Hemmings Daily readers who visited The Amelia earlier this month might have caught sight of a low and wide wedge-shaped car that looked familiar. Indeed it is, and Guy Dirkin, the car's owner, explains its origins and why it may be one of the most significant cars when it comes to the wedge design language applied to supercars of the Sixties, Seventies, and Eighties.] In July 2016, a neglected red wedge-shaped one-off mystery car rolled up onto Geoff Hacker's trailer. Less than six years later, it made its way to the lawn of The Amelia, not just restored but also fully identified by the car's creator and heralded as a forerunner for the 1960s to 1980s wedge-car design movement. As Hacker discussed in his article introducing the car, he traded a nice Cimbria kit car for a strange wedge-shaped car with similarities to Marcello Gandini’s Bertone 1969 Autobianchi Runabout. Hacker is a fan of space-age-era cars and furniture, so his first description of the car naturally referred to “space age” design. But Geoff also founded Undiscovered Classics, which focuses on hand-built collector cars and on reuniting mystery cars with the stories and the builders behind them, so his mission was clear from the start. Image Unavailable, Please Login The Cannara in Detroit. But then, after some entertaining and largely enthusiastic comments, Alan Berry stepped in and said he recognized the car as one that was built by an Art Center student. Art Center is known worldwide as a center of excellence in transportation design; its alumni are a "who’s who" of car design. Alan checked Art Center graduation lists and provided the name of Ray Cannara as the designer and builder of the car. A few days later, Hacker contacted Cannara, who, fortuitously, lived 20 miles away from Hacker in the Tampa-St. Petersburg area. In eight days, thanks to Hemmings and its followers, the car was fully documented, and a month later Cannara visited Hacker to see the car for the first time since he sold in in the late 1970s. Ray was able to share details on the car, which I will cover below, and was helpful in adding his input to the restoration project. Cannara was a career designer at Chrysler, and is now largely retired. Hacker intended to restore the car quickly, but in late 2016, Geoff’s best friend Rick D'Louhy died. Rick was co-partner in Geoff’s large collection of mainly handbuilt cars from the 1950s to the 1960s. This put a significant wrench in the restoration time frame, and once more the Ray Cannara wedge car looked like it may languish. I have been friends with Geoff since 2006, when he reached out to me about my Byers SR-100. I have contributed from time to time with articles, podcasts, and videos about early postwar American sports cars. In late 2019, I agreed to swap a 1939 Nash-based custom car/hot rod for the car we now are able to refer to as the 1966 Cannara. To be honest, it looked like quite a simple restoration: a one-piece hood, a rear deck, and valances. The chassis was 1958 Chevrolet Impala station wagon, and the drivetrain was all Chevrolet. I mean, how hard could that be! In December 2019, I delivered the car to Ralph Smith, who had a proven professional track record of building hot rods and specials for over half a century. Ralph has worked extensively on specials owned by Hacker and others. Image Unavailable, Please Login Starting in January 2020, I had the inclination to identify the first full-sized wedge car (as opposed to models and sketches). I am a researcher, not a designer by background. My starting point was to search for cars with wedge-shaped silhouettes, as I believed the 1966 Cannara was very early in cars that should be included in the wedge car design movement. Interest in wedge car design and “folded paper” designs had a resurrection in 2019, with the unveiling of the Tesla Cybertruck. Many articles exist on facets of wedge car design, but few authors had tackled the question of wedge car origins. The research resulted in a book that details the Cannara and has historic photos of the car from the 1960s, The Origins of Wedge Car Design, which Geoff and I authored. On the completion of the book, we sent our work out for review. Raffi Minasian, a regular contributor to all things design related, Art Center graduate, and Pebble Beach judge concluded: “What is more and more apparent is that this design is clearly one of the earliest of its type, but more specifically it is the first car to completely embrace all aspects of wedge design, rather than simply using vector-based or linear design elements. This design is the full and complete embracement of the wedge theme, both as a concept direction and as a complete car.” Our position is that the 1966 Cannara is the first wedge car, or at the very least, in any discussion of wedge car design, it should serve as a historic design anchor. Image Unavailable, Please Login A couple of the comments from the 2016 Hemmings article suggested that Geoff's trade of the Cimbria for the red-wedge mystery car was not wise. I can be more colorful in retrospect: Out of his mind would be kind! But no, Geoff took an educated risk, as he has done before, that the car had a solid history. “Several elements of the Cannara pointed to a high level of thought that went into the design, which included the radical position of the engine as well as the design of the doors and how they pivoted," Geoff said. "Taken with the fully complete biomorphic interior the car was a design gem in its original form waiting for its history to be found.” So, here we are in 2022 with a showing at The Amelia, a book, and the certainty that we saved a valued car by a prodigious young designer. While the full history is in the book link above, the abbreviated story is that the 1966 Cannara was built by Ray Cannara in his late teens. He and his mother drove the Cannara from St Petersburg, Florida, to Pasadena, California. The cross-country journey was completed twice. Additionally, Ray Cannara drove from California to Michigan when he started work at Chrysler. The Cannara was photographed in the late 1960s by Strother MacMinn, famed teacher and mentor of car design students at Art Center. The car used a 283-cu.in. Chevrolet V-8, mounted in a front mid-engined configuration, with an automatic transmission. Image Unavailable, Please Login In restoring the car, bodywork was handled by Rob Hernadez in Tampa. A rear valance was added, following a suggestion by Cannara. My initial expectations for a quick fix fell by the wayside as I had significantly underestimated the complexity of the car's design at first glance. Just prior to The Amelia, I asked Raffi for help in describing the car. A wedge car, yes, but with compound curves throughout the exterior and interior. “Although the overall effect of the Cannara is driven by linear themes, the details are very thoughtfully managed to pull the eye into subtle curved elements," Raffi said. "The gentle undulations of the belt line as it arches over the wheel openings soften the wheels and help manage the bobbed tail. The rear corners of the car are not cut short or visually abrupt - they terminate in harmony with the wheels and curved undercut behind the rear tires. Linear wedge design can be a bit shocking because automotive architecture is generally fluid and curvaceous. We tend to see this more in fighter jet design - angular overall but with softened details. It takes a careful eye to work softness into an angular form so that the sharp theme is still dominant but does not agitate the eye.” The expression of finding a diamond in the rough is overused. In the case of the “Detroit mystery car,” the six years since we started documenting it have produced a bright, shiny, important design anchor with boatloads of history and provenance that allow for direct comparisons with the best of the Italian design houses.
Revisiting a car first posted a couple of years ago; now in final shakedown testing prior to 'real' builds. Image Unavailable, Please Login IMHO, it looks 'okay'......a bit much bright trim for me, and somehow lose the hood bulge. I want to like it, even though its clearly derivative, but there is something in the overall cabin-to-mid/lower proportion that looks a bit 'off' for me......'splain it to me jm2 and I may be missing the problem in my description.... the stance? wheels too fat/modern? (and of course each of these things are just what I might have suggested to do ) https://www.*************/blog/the-rml-short-wheelbase-on-the-road/?mc_cid=9461e046e5&mc_eid=c114498968
The angles are not exactly the same, but I'm appreciating some differences now......rear fenders esp...looks much wider too....now a better idea of why it looks 'okay' to me..... Image Unavailable, Please Login
I think I prefer the RML to the original. As you say, the rear fenders look more powerful. The original looks a little anaemic or droopy by comparison. I'm not really a classic Ferrari purist, but I'm sure some in the vintage section will be horrified that others might choose the recreation/homage over the Ferrari original. £1.3 million is pretty steep, but a fraction of what an original would go for now. Seems like a good deal for the pleasure of a classic driving experience if you don't much care for the collectible nature of the originals. All the best, Andrew.
Well to be honest, I'd like to see the real car in the' tin'. But admittedly I'm not as bothered by the proportions as you appear to be. Without being able to walk around it, I'm not as troubled. Now we can debate the merits of doing a 'resto-mod' car for over over a Million $$, but that's another story. I'm in the camp of it's OK as far as I can tell. The wheel size is fine for me, but my tastes tend to run for larger wheels than history would suggest. But nothing over 22"-23". Getting the tire face out to the body width is just good for overall stance IMO.
