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  1. werewolf

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  3. DF1

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/60815007 - Not certain if this was posted on the forum

    Formula 1 drivers given new driving standards ahead of season start
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    Max Verstappen was criticised for his driving last season
    Formula 1 drivers have been given new driving standards guidelines before the 2022 season.

    The move is part of the series of changes governing body the FIA has made to try to learn the lessons from the mistakes made last year.

    The new guidelines outline the ways in which drivers overtaking and being overtaken must behave while fighting.

    The onus is on drivers to take responsibility for matters such as gaining advantage by leaving the track.

    This is a significant shift away from the manner in which former FIA race director Michael Masi personally intervened to tell drivers who had gone off track and gained a position to return it, and is likely to lead to more penalties.

    Racing ethics became a major issue throughout 2021, especially in the context of Max Verstappen's aggressive racing tactics.

    The new rules lay out guidelines for manoeuvres where cars are overtaking both on the inside and outside.

    The guidelines have not been published beyond the teams, but they have been seen by BBC Sport.

    Overtaking on the inside
    The new guidelines dictate that a driver being overtaken must give "sufficient room to an overtaking car" if "a significant portion" is alongside.

    The overtaking manoeuvre must be done "in a safe and controlled manner, while enabling the car to remain within the limits of the track".

    The rules do not explicitly define what "a significant portion" of a car means, but they say that "among the various factors that will be looked at by the stewards… they will consider if the overtaking car's front tyres are alongside the other car by no later than the apex of the corner".

    Overtaking on the outside
    The same rules apply for overtaking on the outside. The FIA says that the requirement for a driver being overtaken to give "sufficient room" becomes active when "a significant portion" of the attacking car is alongside, with the same requirement for the manoeuvre to be safe and controlled.

    The definition of "significant portion" again remains not precise but it does define that one factor considered will be "if the overtaking car is ahead of the other car from the apex of the corner".

    It adds: "The car being overtaken must be capable of making the corner while remaining within the limits of the track."

    This rule would have guaranteed a penalty for Verstappen in his infamous fight with Lewis Hamilton at Turn Four in Brazil last year.

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    Verstappen was deemed by many to have forced Hamilton off the road during the Sao Paulo Grand Prix, but went unpunished
    Dangerous driving
    Drivers were reminded of the rule that dictates no car may "be driven unnecessarily slowly, erratically or in a manner which could be deemed potentially dangerous to other drivers or any other person".

    Unfortunately, the document sent out by the the FIA refers to the wrong number of article in the sporting regulations - it indicates the number this clause had last year - 27.4 - not the number it has this year, which is 33.4.

    The document was sent out to teams only at the Bahrain Grand Prix, and it does not refer directly to the stipulations in the sporting code to do with dangerous driving.

    This says: "More than one change of direction to defend a position is not permitted.

    "Any driver moving back towards the racing line, having earlier defended his position off-line, should leave at least one car width between his own car and the edge of the track on the approach to the corner.

    "However, manoeuvres liable to hinder other drivers, such as deliberate crowding of a car beyond the edge of the track or any other abnormal change of direction, are strictly prohibited. Any driver who appears guilty of any of the above offences will be reported to the stewards."

    Giving back an advantage
    The new guidelines dictate: "If a driver, for example, short-cuts a chicane or a corner, it is his or her responsibility to clearly give back the advantage he or she gained. This may include giving back the timing advantage up to drop back a position behind the relevant driver."

    Insiders believe this refusal of race control to directly intervene quickly in such incidents is likely to lead to more penalties as the competitive nature of drivers and teams may well mean they are reluctant to take action themselves.
     
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  4. 375+

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    Overtaking on the outside? Explain it to Sir Loo.
     
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    More races coming........how bout 30 races a season!!!!!

    -- Put's pressure on the crews, drivers, possible rotating crews for shipments of logistics, budget caps?????

    Formula 1 boss Stefano Domenicali has confirmed to Sky Sports F1 that Las Vegas and Africa could both hold races in the future, and says 30 Grands Prix a season would be possible due to the level of interest in the spor
     
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    Domenicali is completely crazy.
    Absolute nonsense.
     
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    This is insanity. Liberty has lost the plot. It's all going to be about the show. Forget traditionally races. Their aim is to make it purely about entertainment. Races held in cities with the fanciest light bulbs.

    idiots.
     
  8. DF1

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    Truly and the sport has no idea about long term power overall. Liberty always pushes cheap city circuits but with a high price for the promoters who beg for Gov money. Pinnacle............of Net Flix ratings.

    We have slower heavier cars, can barely pass but can follow lol. Brawn is so happy. The cars arent harder to drive, they are less nimble so now the driver, steers it around and manages the tires and brakes as they might over heat in battle............well done LOL
     
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  9. DF1

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    Pinnacle of Bloat confirmed lol -
    F1 teams have stripped back liveries in bid to save weight
    Formula 1 teams have been forced to strip back their liveries and remove paint from their cars this year in a bid to shave excess weight, it has emerged.
     
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  10. DF1

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    Why was it ever 'fake'???? Show me, if I bother to view this mess, I have never, show me their lives lol. Ive been in the paddock enough to know the food is superb and the teams personnel work very very hard for not so much money. FAKE should have already been addressed lol - what an idea!!! Why would a driver waste the time on this. The sport has an enormous fan base already.

    Fake to Survive already did its job. We need more Tik Toking fans ??? The electronic outreach is in place with Liberty. Happy to see this die off.

    F1 plans talks with Netflix and drivers over Drive to Survive's fake drama
    Formula 1 plans talks with Netflix to ensure future Drive to Survive series don’t distort the truth too much and deter drivers from wanting to take part.
     
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    Another driver who echo's the situation with 'following' - “[Following] is definitely better. But when you get very close it gets similar to previous years – so within half a second [of the other car]" Alex Albon

    Follow but only up to certain point. He is just one of the drivers saying this. Hopefully as the season matures we see some more insights.
     
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  12. Bas

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    And every year drivers keep saying what they want...lighter cars.

    We are 38kg away from LMP1 cars. Let that sink in...
     
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  13. DF1

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    Sunk and to the bottom. There is zero reason for this.
     
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    AN solution to this would be mechanics on rotation, but even that's not possible for those in higher positions. Yes those higher up can fly in later and be with their spouse Monday to Thursday, but then with the cost cap, none of that is possible anyways.

    30 races is insanity. Because even outside the races they would spend a lot of time at the factory. We are basically talking about guys working 10 months out of the year 6 days straight, the other 2 months it's a 5 day work week. Holidays? Frankly speaking, impossible. That's not a life anymore.

    F1 has been taken over being actual idiots. The fact that Stefano has worked in F1 for so long and blindly goes along with this says enough.
     
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    Fake news ?
     
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    Teams will need 2 sets of pit crews in alternance to maintain observance of employement laws.

    F1 mechanics will become like offshore rig workers.
     
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    indeed and the budget cap ?
     
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    I suppose they intend to increase it in proportion of the number of races added.

    It's becoming very silly, IMO.
     
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    :D......you wish.

    No, it's not fake.
     
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    How about asking Dominicali to do tyre job this weekend? And not one, all four.
    Mercedes should do the honours!!
     
  23. 375+

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    If tracks like Spa and Monza disappear so will I.
     
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    Absolutely and those aren’t the only classics that must stay AFAIC.
     
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