Is Lewis Hamilton the greatest of all time, why or why not?

For now yes but if he gets badly beaten by Russell all year this could be it.


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Yes
For personal reasons.
Big test for Binotto and co will be their ability to improve the car during the season against Red Bull and Mercedes.
Until now it was their weaknesses.

 

And if Newey left Red Bull or Toto left Mercedes? Come on, dude.

 

We were talking about good atmosphere in a company.

 

No there are none.

 

You really do make broad, sweeping generalizations.

Of those last 4 races where Hamilton supposedly had a 30HP advantage he used an old engine, and still qualified on pole. Explain that. In those last 4 races, Hamilton was by far the better driver. Across the board. When it was on the line, he delivered.

Maybe, just maybe he's a good driver.

Maybe, just maybe Mercedes didn't pay him a quarter of a billion dollars because he's an average driver. They did it because he won them titles.

 

Regardless of the age of the engine, it was much fresher the Max's, and that Mercedes PU were getting a clear 30HP on the Honda, hence why they were 5-6 tenths up over the Red Bulls in Brazil and Qatar. Max had no chance to defend against Hamilton in Jeddah last year. Ham just flew by him on the straight. There was nothing Max could do, so don't go praising Hamilton for those races.

Hamilton was able to just fly by people on the straights at Brazil like it was nothing. I notice Ham wasn't able to make to come up through the field last Sunday. Could it be, maybe just maybe, his engine advantage in those last 4 races was too big for any of his opponents to compete against?

 

Not really.

In fairness to Hamilton, he's 37 years old. Russell is a decade and a half younger than him, and so the idea that a much younger driver might be able to cope with an ill handling car better than him isn't something people should **** on him for.

Russell has been driving a ****box Williams. Hamilton just came off the tail end of Mercedes dominance of F1, where the car was built around his driving style. Mercedes created a car that's struggling to compete with Alfa Romeo and Alpine, and it handles terribly. Right now, the team are just throwing things at the car to keep Hamilton and Russell from banging their heads like Judas Priest out on the track into a head injury, and the idea that some of the solutions being thrown out there might help Russell and not Hamilton isn't a surprise, and doesn't really take away from Hamilton in any way.

See, Hamilton defenders? I'm a fair guy. lol

 

So when Max wins with a 20 second gap, what is that down to? Magic fairy dust? Or a powerful engine? And no, theres no definive measure on how much HP the Mercedas or Redbull PU made. That's why Horner never complained about it. He was always complaining about the aero stuff.....because you know he employs Newey, who knows a thing or to about fast cars.

So lets use cold data instead of conjecture to prove my assertion. Look at the speed difference between the cars in clean air. Well choose Brazil 2021, when Ham is said to have a rocketship:

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It's clear to see that Ham doesn't have the fastest speed. He's usually within 10-14 kmh ahead of of the Redbull. That's not even 6-9mph.

Notice How low Verstappen's speed is compared to vastly slower cars. That's down to the aero genius of the RB16B, namely downforce. The trick is to stay planted without being draggy. Newey can build a freaking good car. Also, since Max was in front most of the time, he never could rely on the slipstream affect, which also contributed to his low speed.

It's not the engine that makes a car fast, it's the aero. A fresher engine certainly helps, but the car with the best aero advantage usually wins, unless the engine is overpowered, like Ferrari's fuel cheat in 2019.

 

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/60944822

 

Do you have the sprint race info??

 

That list doesn’t take in account if a car had DRS, a slipstream or both.
So it’s nice to know how fast drivers were going, but it doesn’t say anything about the extra speed someone had.
Looking at the race it was very clear Hamilton’s Mercedes was way quicker than any other car. It was actually amazing Max was able to stay in front for so long against that car.

It was very clear they had an interesting rear wing as well, but for some reason we never heard anything from that again.

 

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Exactly. Anyone with eyes in their head saw the massive speed advantage. Mercedes also admitted having a self proclaimed rocket engine. Yet those that subscribe to the Church of Lewis try to even argue that wasn't happening...It really is a cult.

 

@Phil~

Here's qualifying

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I'm still waiting for Max to win his 104th race and set his name in stone as the most successfully driver in F1's history. So far Max has had half the total race starts as Lewis but is only showing 20% of the wins. Seems max is off pace by 32 wins at this point in his career compared to Lewis.

 

In order for a driver to repeat Lewis Hamilton's wins in the turbo hybrid era, the driver MUST HAVE a dominant car to which the rules and regulations stifle progress to competitors to catch-up to said dominant car.....for 7 years straight.

 

2021 Maximum speeds grand prix Sao Paulo Sprint Qualifying (mclarenf-1.com)

Here are the speeds recording. Important to remember that lewis was using their highest downforce wing and the car still managed those speeds. The rest where using the traditional medium downforce wings.

 

If you want to be fair with your analysis you have to consider the Lewis career from 2007 to 2013 either.
What you are saying in fact is that the Mercedes era was absolutely amazing.
Again Lewis is a great driver.
No need to rewrite history to demonstrate this.

 

If lewis is so great why hasn't he won any races this season?

PS the correct answer to this question also answers yours

 

Michael Schumacher (91 wins) didn’t win any races with MB in 2010, 2011 and 2012, the last three years he raced. With only one win in the 2005 season. So, two races into the 2022 season, Lewis (103 wins) is a failuare (like Michael) for not winning in a new car design? LOL

Remember the key phrase to the argument - Most successful driver in the history of F1. Leaving out emotional terms like best/favorite/greatest.

 

What does this have to do with Michael? You where talking about Max.

 

It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a Lewis fanboy to accept a valid argument.

 

The sun shines out of McHam's ass.
Nothing to do whatsoever with the almighty 2014 Mercedes hybrid and FIA development freezes

 

4 tenth difference, not much.

I’ve rewatched that race multiple times, the Merc is not as fast as some claim it is. Ham used very specific spots to overtake where the slipstream affect was maximized.