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Nice ride, so this may cause considerable offence... Stanceworks 308 GTBi (Honda K24 Swap)

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  1. Ianjoub

    Ianjoub Formula Junior

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    Is it not a Ferrari if you rebuild the motor with aftermarket pistons? Is my 458 not a Ferrari if I use Surface Transformation rotors when my stockers wear out?
     
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  2. miketuason

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    If you still using the same original engine regardless of what brand piston you use, then it is still a Ferrari. But what Stance Work did is removed everything that makes a car a Ferrari, not one single part or component on that car is a Ferrari.
     
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  3. derekw

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    He’s keeping the best part— that gorgeous PF Fioravanti body (and legally it’s the chassis that makes it a Ferrari.)
     
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  4. M.Burroughs

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    That's very American of you.
     
  5. M.Burroughs

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    The part that makes it legally a Ferrari is still there. And you've called it a Ferrari when you've come to see it in person. Why the change of heart? :p
     
  6. M.Burroughs

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    Genuinely appreciated. I know what I've chosen to do with the car isn't everyone's cup of tea, but I'm glad some folks can at least appreciate what has gone into it. I'm trying to make the car better, in some ways subjectively and in others, hopefully less so.
     
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  7. miketuason

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    When I was watching your video, I thought about it since the last time I saw your car. It really did made me think but now the only thing I think it’s still a Ferrari is maybe the tail lights or is that also part of PiniFarina?
     
  8. Brian A

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    I still don’t understand what the fuss is about. There are people who have done engine swaps, supercharging, electrification, Michelotto copies, etc., and they don’t get the flax you do. To me these cars are just consumer products; I shouldn’t care how they are “consumed”. Maybe it’s just that you started on the wrong foot; coming off saying how terrible our cars are. Many of us are very proud of our stock 308s. I am. I enjoy following your videos. Sorry to hear about the interminable delays about getting the wheels built.
     
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  9. miketuason

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    Would you care to point out how or what makes the chassis legally a Ferrari? Because I really don’t think so.
     
  10. Brian A

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    Getting flax is like getting flak, except more nutritious.
     
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  11. flyngti

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    I have a friend who has a Cadillac XLR, which is "built on a Corvette chassis." He went to a meet and was shunned by the Corvette community -- his "basically a Corvette" didn't fly at all. Apparently, a chassis does not a car make. At least to that particular crowd.
     
  12. wildcat326

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    That makes my day to see you here on f-chat. I've followed this video series and looked forward to every installment. It's been so fascinating to see the craftsmanship that's gone into this project; whether one approves of modifying a classic Ferrari or not, there is no denying that someone who puts this amount of thought into a build has true passion for the vehicle and for their craft. Kudos to you, and I can't wait to see how it turns out!
     
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  13. ChipG

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    Legally it would be a chassis with an attached VIN # plate from the manufacture
     
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  14. ChipG

    ChipG Formula 3

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    Great thread on F Chat! No one can deny Mikes skills
     
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  15. M.Burroughs

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    For the folks that enjoy the build, I'm sure you've already seen, but she's finally on the ground and rolling around. It's got a long way to go yet, but at this point, it runs and rolls, which is exciting. Lots of bodywork (including fixing those fender arch lines), lots of missing aero (no splitter, diffuser, etc), no axles... Lots yet to do, but the finish line is in sight! Exciting stuff.


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  16. Brian A

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    Very cool! Lotsa hard work. Congratulations!
     
  17. tbakowsky

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    I kinda like it..gotta admit..
     
  18. bitsobrits

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    Agreed. I think it will look stunning once it's all one color, though I do find the rear wing over the top. I would lean towards a 288 style 'ducktail'.
     
  19. ChipG

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    I think it looks awesome! I almost looked up Mike in the phone book to see if I could stop by and see it in person. Hopefully I will get to see it at a meetup.
     
  20. Ferraridoc

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    Ouch!
     
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  22. JonWH

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    +1
     
  23. derekw

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    I thought Mark with the V12 would beat you to the start line but he’s contending with Ferrari engineering and 50 year old Italian castings (admittedly somewhat modified.)
     
  24. Hannibal308

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    I like it!
     
  25. Brian A

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    It does seem to be sized more for a front engine car. The Porsche and Ferrari factory GT race cars seem to have smaller wings.
     

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