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  1. Edward 96GTS

    Edward 96GTS F1 World Champ
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    which tracks will have sprint races?
     
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  3. Edward 96GTS

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    Imola
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  5. SPEEDCORE

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    too many.
     
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    Hey buddy, you gonna set up the Sprint race title??? (Curiuos)
     
  7. Bas

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    Yup. After the opening lap there simply isn't much point in risking an overtake. Do it wrong and crash, you'll start at the back and your race is surely ruined. Even if you don't crash but do damage your car significantly enough (i.e. front wing falls off), you need to pit and....start from the back. Get it right and you gain 1 point and 1 position for the actual race. Not enough difference.

    FIA tried to make it more interesting by changing the points for the sprint race, but they forget that there is no real incentive. In F2, the big incentive going from 9th to 8th is simple: You will be on pole for the main race. With the first 8 cars being in reverse order, THAT changes things significantly. Even in a super tight championship battle, the extra point is not worth the extra risk. Leclerc has an enormous lead in the championship already. If he can't get passed Max on the start, he'll leave it. No point.

    It's amazing how F1/FIA are incapable of understanding this.
     
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    It's early? I usually wait till the practice sessions are over :oops:
     
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    Well, the Sprint Race starts in less than less than 4.5 hours......just sayin.
     
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    Ok I'll get on it :)
     
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    Thanks!!!
     
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    that's the other thing...what's the point having a practice session now that the cars are in parc ferme o_O
     
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    It's idiotic. I really really dislike these Sprint Race formats.
     
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    For the suckers... i mean fans that visit the track? It's bad enough they shortened the practice sessions.
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    So did the vast majority of people that participated in last years' Motorsport Survey (the largest in the world). Even though the vast majority was pretty damn negative to the sprint races, F1 decided to read that what all those fans really meant was....they liked it.

    Governed. By. Idiots.
     
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    One of the things they should've done (apart from getting rid of the sprint race completely), is to have FP1 and 2 on friday as normal, then quali for the sprint race in place of FP3 (the time set in the FP3 quali thing counts to official pole position in the stats)...Then reverse grid the top 8 for main race. I mean if they did that it should at least be an interesting concept.
     
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    They mentioned it last year and the drivers were against reverse grids.

    What they could do is have a sprint race with all the reserve/test drivers, now that would be entertaining :p
     
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    I'm reading a story they want to increase it to 6 races next year. :oops:

    “On Tuesday we want to discuss increasing it to six,” said Brawn.
     
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    I think the idea, from a Liberty/FIA point of view, was to have some interesting track action during the whole weekend.

    Qualifs on Friday, Sprint on Saturday and the race on Sunday, to attract spectators to come for the 3 days.

    Having Qualifs and Sprint on Saturday, that would reduce the audience on Friday perhaps ?
     
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    "The fans will like what we give them !" :D:D:D

    They may be right: we will see if the audience decreases. So many changes have been introduced to F1 over the years that you hardly recognise it now. Yet more people watch it ! I think it will be the same for the sprint races.
     
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    Yeah, that would give some work to the mechanics with all the cars smashed up the day before the race.

    Great idea !! :rolleyes:
     
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    It was a joke post :rolleyes:
     
  23. JJ

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    I don't think that would work. In order for reverse grids to work, the incentive to move up the grid and win the current race has to be greater than the incentive to achieve a better starting position in the main race. Otherwise, you'd see the leaders of the sprint race all trying to fall back to 8th place.
     
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    That's what the extra points are for.
    1st in sprint race - 10 points
    2nd 8
    3rd 6
    4-5
    5-4
    6-3
    7-2
    8-1 and gets pole

    Those in 8th-9th 10th etc will try and do their best to get 8th. A point and pole for main race. Those in 1st want to keep 1st because more points.
     
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    RedBull past Mercedes in the constructors just because of the Imola2022 sprint race. RedBull is currently 2nd in the WCC.
     

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