Miami GP 2022 Pre-Race Thread

I believe that the new rear wing will be mor important cause that could take away red bull biggest advantage wich is straight line speed.

 

Well, lets not get ahead of ourselves. We don't know precisely how much power the upgraded Ferrari PU will bring, and how well it perform in race conditions, but lets assume 15bhp. It's important to keep in mind that Red Bull had a power deficit to Mercedes all of last year, and still managed to win the championship with chassis updates, and Max simply racing better than Hamilton.

I suspected Red Bull would be strong in Imola, given how much elevation change there was and how unstable that would make the Ferrari. I'd expect that in Miami Ferrari will find a few tenths with Leclerc's fresh PU giving him a good 15bhp, and warmer conditions being harder on the Red Bull tires.

 

I would rather go to any European race then go to the Miami GP. I bet Miami will be big $$$. I'll spend my money at a real track while I still can

 

Frankly
Solving our porpoising issues will be the best performance gain.
Don’t believe the 15hp more for our PU.
Would be worth around three tenths per lap.
Too good to be true.
Wait and see..

 

I don't think solving porpoising is the big increase in lap time people expect. It's basically the car moving up and down on a straight...maybe a few km/h is gained on peak but it's not a huge differential. Though in very high speed corners like 130R, copse and blanchimont I can see it make a difference, but few of such corners exist in F1.

 

I am surprised to see Americans shoot down the Miami GP. Yes the fake Marina is cheesy but Vegas will be 1000 times cheesier and I don't like the track layout there at all, it is frankly terrible.

In total contrast the Miami track layout has actually been thought out very cleverly, it has a series of medium and high speed turns that will require real skill and downforce BUT the back straight is very long with a series of very slow turns just before, hence cars can follow each other closely into it and a hairpin at the other end all of which favors overtaking. As a result it seems most teams have already announced they will go for a relatively low downforce set up not to be siting ducks on the straight.

Of course any hyped up event like this will have crowds of shallow ignorant self declared VIP's watching the start, the first two laps from their suites,and then just having Martinis and ignoring the race but that is their loss. There might be some logistics issues with transportation to and from the track but that is part and parcel of any new major event: growing pains.

I think the race itself will be a very exciting one. I hope the marshals are prompt and professional. I expect to attend once in coming years.

 

Again I’m just an armchair aerodynamicist but solving porpoising will Allow us to ride with less height and then will provide more constant downforce.
This is a virtuous cycle.
More constant downforce equal less Front and rear wing equal less drag.
In the end more top speed with the same tyre wear.
Am I wrong ?

 

I did forget to take into account lower rideheight, I must admit!

However, eye balling the pics from the 2022 Australian GP the Ferrari appears to already ride as low as the Red Bull.

In any case, less porpoising can only be seen as an advantage. I just doubt it's worth 5-7 tenths as some are saying...

 

It will definitely bring some performance, Binotto himself said so this week. Even if it's "just" 2 tenths, that would be huge with RB and Ferrari being so close in performance. We shall see in Barcelona; the first real upgrade weekend for F1-75, aero, floor, maybe even the new rear suspension. That weekend will set the pace most likely until summer break.

Let's hope that in Miami the new low downforce rear wing is effective, will be a good test regarding Baku as well. PU2 will definitely bring couple of tenths, simply because it allows the engine finally run full beans; let's remember Leclerc was running his PU1 in Imola in a cautious mode as precaution because of the issues with Sainz's PU1.

That's not to say Ferrari will win in Miami, but atleast they should be in contention with the higher temps also favoring the red car.

 

Given how well Ferrari went in Australia I fully expect them to be favourites in Miami and indeed Spain and Monaco. I don't think Red Bull can shed the weight they need to before Spain at least but likely later even...

 

Of course there's more history and ambiance with a Euro track but it also requires and extensive trip, time and cost. Flying to Miami is easy and they got plenty of hotels. Can be done in a weekend.

 

Alright, enough of all that pre-race criticism. Can we get some pictures in here of teams arriving?
@jgonzalesm6 do your thing please.

 

It does feel like less porpoising would allow better entry into high speed turns. You want to really rely on this outside tire in a hogh speed corner, when your car is bouncing up and down, it’s not quite as settled.

 

absolutely.

 

Video of critical turn sequence prior to the long straight of 1.28km in Miami

https://motorsport.tv/embed/sQLQLhzq-inside-miami-s-new-f1-track-signature-corner-sequence


UK specialists Apex Circuit Design laid out the 5.41-kilometre anticlockwise circuit, which hosts its first Formula 1 Grand Prix next weekend, around the Hard Rock Stadium in Miami Gardens.

Its most sinuous section is through Turns 13-16, which wind around the entrance and exit ramps and beneath the flyover sections of the Florida Turnpike, the main toll road between Miami and Orlando, and NW 203rd Street.

The track is expected to produce an average lap speed of just under 135mph, and this slow-speed section precedes a 1.28km, 320kph straight that leads towards the hairpin at Turn 17.

The approach to Turn 17 should be the track’s key overtaking opportunity and the compression effect of the Turn 13-16 sequence should ensure close running onto the back straight.

 

Lol was just about to post the fake water.

Incredible!

 

The silly boat thing aside...I have no idea what to expect this weekend. I hope it turns out to be a good race between all the cars. I hope the upgrades get rid of as much of the porpoising as possible, and that everyone has to drive the wheels off their cars. I would love Ferrari to get a one two finish...and I'd love Alonzo to get on the podium with them. I be thrilled if Max comes in fourth, Bottas gets fifth, Lando gets sixth, Magnusen gets seventh, Russell gets eighth, and Hamilton gets ninth...but only after being lapped. I hope ABC is smart enough to just run the Sky feed, and not dork it up with their own announcers and commercials.

 

We have a cohort of 8 of us going …and we are in the Marina area, which I personally chose bc it’s near 3 turns for passing, and when we bought the tickets last fall, I had to do it ostensibly based on a drawing. I don’t expect it to be like Monaco was in any capacity, but some of the folks going have never been to a F1 race and we are excited to get them into the sport. It’s as others said, an easy trip and as all has been up in the air last 3 years with COVID, it was a reasonable prediction that at least Florida would be open for F1 business. Wish it were truly at least partially over water, but the track has been designed well and I’m hopeful for Ferraris performance after F1 Australia. May post a pic or two if any interest. I’ll be waving the Forza Charles flag

 

Fake water...And still some were questioning the Monaco GP.

 

Hope you all have the time of your lives. Looking forward to watching out for you with the Charles flag!

 

I love fake water !!!

It's the only water I don't get seasick on

 

PU2 was used by Sainz at Imola, but was run in a conservative mapping. Leclerc had his PU1 running similar settings, down form the 5bhp from Melbourne.

Both cars are said to be running PU2 at Miami, with the 5bhp from Melbourne, plus the additional 10bhp in reserve. That's 15bhp more than Imola if rumour is to be believed.

 

IDK if Ferrari are the favorite, but they should do better than Imola, where the engines were tuned down and they were setup for more dry conditions.