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Discussion in 'Australia' started by scud, Jan 29, 2009.

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  1. kerrari

    kerrari Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Look, I freely admit I can’t drive a Porsche at speed but IIRC these were notorious for the turbolag in the day? For me, a combination of ‘normal’ Porsche handling and turbolag would be truly scary.
     
  2. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ Lifetime Rossa Owner

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    You probably drive like a girl :p
     
  3. simon klein

    simon klein Two Time F1 World Champ Owner

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    Well she hasn't smashed as many front spoilers as you have if that's any sort of guage...
     
  4. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ Lifetime Rossa Owner

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    Not driving hard enough
     
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  5. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    Have you entered GG?
     
  6. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ Lifetime Rossa Owner

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    Haven't received the application form ...... have you ?
     
  7. Horse

    Horse Three Time F1 World Champ Owner Silver Subscribed

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    I sent your email to:

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  8. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    They prefer SC Surf club members & VIP Red Rooster diners..

    Instead lets do Classic Le-Mans ..
     
  9. IanB

    IanB F1 World Champ Owner

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    Modern cars have turbo lag and a slightly delayed throttle response (to reduce emissions, they won't allow you to stomp the accelerator) such that in inexperienced driver could quickly get into trouble in a 488 for example when the power arrives in a rush. That's why there are so many software nannies.

    You have to drive early Porsches with knowledge of where the mass is, but that's part of what makes them interesting. The fact is they whooped Ferrari in contemporary production and endurance racing, so you can't look down your nose at them.

    I would have Carl's car in a heartbeat and I'm even contemplating a 911 for historic racing at some point, the 2 litre class is very competitive and seems relatively wanker-free. When you get to the bigger cars, it's unfortunately a different story.
     
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    simon klein Two Time F1 World Champ Owner

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    Pretty much.:)
     
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  11. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    I've noticed that with the Macan the turbo lag .

    Few cars have the enjoyment of an early 911,I'm a great fan of hotted up Carrera 3.0s, SCs and 3.2 cars .
     
  12. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    Ouch ..

    For me the ideal GG/GAD car would be a series 2 997
     
  13. FazzerPorscheman

    FazzerPorscheman F1 World Champ

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    Yep, or an AWD 911 including Turbos from 997 onwards. IMO.
     
  14. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    As if your IMO counts for anything ..
     
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    Ferraridoc F1 World Champ Owner Silver Subscribed

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    I might have a bit of spare time coming up for historics, but I can't afford a Porsche, so I'll have to dust off the Elan
     
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    Horse Three Time F1 World Champ Owner Silver Subscribed

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    It’s a deal!

    Anything less than an R35 GTR is just kidding yourself.


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    FazzerPorscheman F1 World Champ

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    AWD would be desirable on some of those roads.

    IMO. [emoji16]
     
  18. moretti

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    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    Thank goodness there banned on GAD events .
     
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    Horse Three Time F1 World Champ Owner Silver Subscribed

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    I did take it on a GAD, it was fabulous.

    Though I spent far too much time waiting for the OHOSs.


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  21. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    Yawn.
     
  22. IanB

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    You'll enjoy running around at the back.
     
  23. carl888

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    Lag yes, however the handling is very progressive. It sounds like you haven't driven a correctly set up 930. The term "widowmaker" was coined by internet millennials who've never driven one. It was never used in period. In the 1990s I did a lot of suspension development to the 308, springs, bars, dampers, tyres, alignment, but I was never able to engineer out the cars ability to spin once a slip angle of approximately 10 degrees was attained and I was never able to get the chassis to be as communicative as a 911.

    You can easily summon controllable slip angles that are impossible in a 308. That applies to any 911, short or long wheelbase, turbocharged or not. And they're not difficult to drive. Here's some nice footage of a 3.0 RS. Look at it after 2:20 if you can't be bothered with the whole thing:




    And a 934, which is the same thing, but turbocharged:




    This is always good for a laugh, Stefan Roser in the RUF CTR. (Aerial shots from about 11:50)



    Porsche have a knack of combining mechanical integrity, weight management and exceptional structural rigidity. And I think the latter two is what contributes to the handling. Especially the latter.

    BTW, the 934 (group 4) car in the second video was so light that Porsche fitted full road trim from the 930, including the electric windows and door trims to meet the homologation weight.
     
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  24. carl888

    carl888 F1 Veteran Owner

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    I think the 2.0L class would be a riot!

     
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  25. Ferraridoc

    Ferraridoc F1 World Champ Owner Silver Subscribed

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    I'm not Carl!
     
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