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  1. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Do you actually think Merecedes, as dominant as they were to include a "spicey" engine swap every 3rd race would sacrifice WCC points IF a penalty system existed where the team would be penalized in WCC points so the driver can win the WDC title???

    Think again. It won't work IF such a system existed.
     
  2. lagunacc

    lagunacc F1 Rookie
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    Benson is Hamster's massage therapist.

    'Hamilton said the high-speed bouncing of his car meant the Azerbaijan Grand Prix was "the toughest race" of his career'

    Time for the "goat" to test a new spine because the excuses for being repeatedly outqualified and outscored by Russell are becoming laughable.
     
  3. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    IMO, it's the team that needs to get penalised for exceeding the engine allocation, not the driver.

    Using more engine than allocated is no different (to me at least) than exceeding the budget cap: that's a team responsability.

    The only penalty that will "bite" is point deduction.
     
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  4. Isobel

    Isobel F1 World Champ

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    It was always like that (with top teams) until the Schumacher era. Fez needs a driver who puts it all on the line and elicits the thrill of victory throughout the team by constantly networking within from the bottom up.

    ‘Need anything ? Call me anytime, we’re famiglia.’ Everyone at 110 % because everyone wanted their friend to win.

    I’m hoping Eclair has it in him to do similar and go Charles 2.0.

    Right now we have an ace behind the wheel of a Killer Osella managed by Zakspeed.

    Somewhat fun to watch, unpredictable and often annoying.
     
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  5. 355TDI

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    The pointless Hamilton hate on here is comical, he is living rent free in some people's heads.
     
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  6. Bas

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    I think Leclerc has it in him to be fully committed. Sadly, what he desperately needs, is a Jean Todt/Ross Brawn type leadership within the team. The current (public) attitude from the team is piss poor, is demotivational and reeks of people happy to finish 2nd (after all, they're not here to win Titles, as per Binotto!).

    Ferrari has the car to win the titles (though I guess with Sainz' performance and luck, title is the more appropriate word). Combined with the car and Leclerc's supreme one lap pace, we're the absolute kings on Saturday. Perhaps it's worth to sacrifice a litle bit of that saturday speed for Sunday pace? In Spain Leclerc was romping away with the lead.

    The reliability is a huge cause for concern though and I don't know if swapping back to spec 1 will solve it all. It seems it may all be heat related. Adding extra vents causes drag. We've had several different engine failures yesterday: Leclerc's total ICE failure (a big concern since it was practically brand new), Sainz had hydraulics go, Magnussen another turbo failure, Zhou unknown at this point.

    If it kept being turbo failures it would be a lot easier to identify...

    Yesterday a reliable italian journalist said that Ferrari's PU was totally wasted now. I don't know if there was something lost in translation as these days, PU is known as the entire unit, not just the ICE. If the entire PU is ****ed, Leclerc will need a new turbo which will be a 10p grid penalty for Canada....
     
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  7. jpalmito

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    Sorry Bas
    I still don't believe the SF-75 is a better car than the RB18.
    Sainz is Perez level no doubt about this.
    Simply Charles is doing magical things in qualy but in race pace the RB18 is slightly better.
     
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  8. MaxVerstappen33

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    If the turbos are bad now wait until high altitude tracks like RBRing, Brazil and Mexico.
     
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  9. jpalmito

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  10. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    In spain Ferrari was easily clear of red bull, as they where in Monaco (but screwed that up themselves). Prior to the failures, Leclerc was less than 2 seconds away from Perez, who used his tyres up rapidly trying to stay ahead.

    Advantage Ferrari on Saturdays, Sundays remain very close but dependent on track. The clearest advantage Red Bull have shown was Miami, and imo the strongest races for Ferrari was Australia and Spain. Latter perhaps due to a it of Leclerc magic as Sainz was just awful there.
     
  11. Etcetera

    Etcetera Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Ferrari don't care about winning. They get paid the most prize money 1st place or last, so to hell with trophies. They constantly throw out formulas of success while holding on to formulas of failure for dear life. They have had pitlane problems since forever and don't care. They got rid of Schumi while he still had another WDC in him. They got rid of Brawn who went on to win WDC and WCC with a team he bought for an actual dollar....that very same team who has been sticking it to Ferrari ever since. They finally glued together a winning package and their response was to fire the guy responsible for it while keeping a boat anchor of a driver who went on to throw away two titles on his own....AND THEY STILL KEPT HIM.

    Then this year they lost a race that couldn't be lost and are happy with going backwards yet again.

    Ferrari won't change until they hire someone who will replace heads up asses with his foot.
     
  12. jpalmito

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    Unfair statement.
    Winning a world championship in Formula one as a constructor is a very difficult task.
     
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  13. PowerSlide

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    maybe you should have a go at it run the team lol
     
  14. DF1

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    Ferrari prefers fast unreliable F1 car rather than other way around
    Ferrari Formula 1 boss Mattia Binotto says he would rather have the challenge of fixing an unreliable but competitive package than the other way around.
     
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  15. Bas

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    Agree with that. At least wins are possible. Rather than finishing 6th and 7th all the time.
     
  16. william

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    That's why I can't fathom Ferrari; they keep throwing away opportunities, and don't seem to care.
     
  17. jpalmito

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    Another unfair statement.
     
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  18. jgonzalesm6

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    I wonder if this has to do with their new "Superfast" PU???? Teams struggled with it back in 2014 thru 2015 due to reliability. This could take awhile for Ferrari IF this is the case.
     
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  19. MaxVerstappen33

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    EXACTLY what Horner said earlier in the year word for word haha
     
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  20. william

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    That's the way I see it.
    I don't see at Ferrari the same sense of urgency (and sometimes desperation) there is at Mercedes or Red Bull (even more at Red bull) after a failure.
     
  21. jpalmito

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    Binotto stated today they deliberately take huge risks with their PU reliability to bridge the gap with others and even surpass them.
    This is desperation in my book.
    The 2019 PU saga is another good exemple of this.

    I have the feeling Binotto is methodically putting all the ingredients together and this would take some time.
     
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  22. 375+

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    Aren't the PU manufacturers permitted to modify specifications if related to reliability?
     
  23. Bas

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    Yes. A request for a change has to be made but if the FIA thinks it's performance related it's denied.
     
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