Glad this clearly dangerous situation is being dealt with.
Development will be interesting except for RedBull. The pressure is somewhat reduced. Mercedes driving this is blind and delusional. It was the drivers in most if not all the paddock from sources. Mercedes are the clear initial losers but say they are still developing lol. For next year. This year is done. Ferrari seem to be able to compete but will now be watched closer due to the new clarification. I hope they can develop and fight RedBull. The Mid Pack = who cares. They werent near the front now are do not matter at all. Its a 1.5 horse race to the title. Maybe 2 if Ferrari can confront RedBull further. Its all about next year for the rest lol
FIA will set limits before FP3 . Teams with high porpoising out of the limits will have to change set up and loose performance.
I think by later in the season the teams will find the same solution that RB did and not just slam their car onto the road. Unfortunately there is only one Adrian Newey to go around. Honestly it's been very lazy by some of the teams, especially Mercedes who were willing to put their drivers well being at risk just to get lap time.
Next question: Why the FIA didn't include that in the new technical rules when they wrote this new formula? The ball is the FIA camp really, for incompetence, IMO. They are reactive, not proactive. The issues of porpoising and bottoming were predictable since they existed already 40 years ago !
I guess the FIA thought it would be in the teams interests to solve the porpoising phenomenon on their own. They didn't think teams would just slam their car on the road with no suspension travel and tell their drivers to tough it out LMAO, they probably didn't think that would be at all fast anyway. Honestly just incredibly lazy by Mercedes this year to not even try and solve the issue and now they've brought it to this.
That is EXACTLY how I think about it as well. They could've raised the ride height and saved their drivers health, but would be tough to explain to the board why they can barely get out of Q2. Now they have a scapegoat.
Exactly, they are predictable since it's a known issue. The teams (including Mercedes!) voted against measures for porpoising before the season started. So there is your answer. The FIA offered the teams a solution, they refused, so now the FIA introduced a directive based on the moaning of drivers/teams. Next!
Agreed. RB's reliability has been fine except for a fuel issue, but their engine performance had an almost immeasurable difference with the old engine vs new one put in at baku quali. They can do their silverstone upgrade and focus on 2023.
So where is the FIA in this? They get swayed one way, and then impose new measures to correct their initial mistake ? It doesn't look like they are in control. Like I said: reactive, not proactive.
Well what would you have them do? They offered a solution, it was rejected. Teams/Drivers complain. Some teams found the (obvious) solution, others kept complaining whilst doing the opposite of said solution. Those same teams are the loudest of them all saying how porpoising is a health hazard. The GPDA director tells the FIA something must be done. FIA puts in a new rule. Now you are pissed. Tell me William, what should they have done?
So some like Neweys found pretty quickly a fix to this problem. Can’t believe they are so incompetent.. Just imagine how they will check the budget cap or the Power Unit reliability improvements..
They had this same issue in the early 80's with and without skirts. then they just went flat bottom. with ground effect it is tuned for max performance with a static ride height. = especially with no skirts. the ultimate solution is active suspension, and then you can keep the driver safe. OR - an active seat that dampens out the impact on the driver cell/ or a g suit that inflates and deflates to absorb the impacts.... not sure how much weight that would add.
A shockingly reasonable and equitable solution. Good on the drivers for speaking up about this and FIA for taking action relatively quickly
This is showing the Merc to be the worst by far. AM the others are similar: Tweet— Twitter API (@user) date
I don't see this as a mistake. It is an unintended consequence. The FIA could have put in a ride height rule then teams would be pissed about that. Basically they were all given the same rules. The losers Merc can't engineer a fix so they are going after a rule change. That is what they should do. The results of that rule change can cut both ways and it did forcing merc to raise RH uncompetitively if they can't meet the new safety guidelines they caused when they screamed loudest about how porposing is unsafe. Ferrari makes dumb mistake but eveny they were not dumb enough to open that can of worms. The FIA solution was obvious in my mind. I knew RH was going to be an issue the 1st time I understood why porposing was occuring. In our road cars without aero engineers solve this natural phenomenon with chassis frequency about 10% lower in front than rear through springrates because we are all mechanical grip. With aero it has to be solved with active aero or reduction of aero ground effects by raising RH. That's why these drivers are real athletes forced to work in high G environment while us club racers of 1G doorslammers can be fat and drink beer.
I would have expected the FIA to include these measures when they wrote the new rules, and not treat them as options. You can't let a committee decide rules: you need some leadership. If you ask a committe to draw a horse, they will come up with is a camel ! So now the FIA is in the situation that it has to introduce without consent, what it was too weak to impose in the first place. I begin to understand why Bernie always said F1 needs a dictator
When do they get to test to see if they have solved the problem? How much money are you going to allow them to throw at the problem ?
Money?? LOL The limit has not been raised. The mid pack trash won’t allow it. Ferrari, Mercedes and RedBull have been denied. This year is an utter joke. Last season was much better. The new rules allow for following and lack of racing. No changes to the top end of the grid. Same teams are at front. No other teams can challenge for a win. Not sure what the new rules are for. Just bring back no budget and last years cars lol. It’s much easier to NOT WATCH than last year. This year is over just give RedBull both titles, cancel the schedule and get the rules and budget sorted. I. Not really seeing the point now at all.
