You perfectly know what I mean. And yes some drivers deserves more recognition because of the parameters. Lewis as good as he is remains the luckiest driver of all time.
Do you have any proof of this ? Or is it another of your whishful thinking ? Suppose I say Leclerc decides who his team mate is.
No insults from YOU so far in this thread, right? Do you even read the crap you post? Unbelievable Still struggling with basic reading, i see. I was the one who introduced the wins-per-races-started statistic into this thread. I was the one who pointed out that Hamilton is currently 3rd, in history. I was the one who pointed out that Clark is a VERY close 4th, in wins-per-races-started. These are all facts, or "records" as you have called them ... that were introduced into this thread by yours truly I also pointed out that, IF Hamilton does not score a "win" in the next 4 races, THEN he will fall behind Clark, to 4th, in this meaningful metric. That's not "hate", that's not a "prediction", that's not even a "desire". This is nothing more than simple arithmetic, based on the "records" as they currently stand. In case you're still struggling: PREDICTION: Hamilton will not win a single race in the next 4 races. I did not write, or even imply, this. DESIRE: I hope Hamilton does not win a single race in the next 4 races. I did not write, or even imply, this. FACT: IF Hamilton doesn't win a race in the next 4 races, THEN he falls behind Clark into 4th place for wins-per-races-started. This, i DID write. Nothing more than an investigation into Hamilton's "record" as a Formula One driver. Sorry it clearly still ruffles your feathers. The next and last words on this particular topic are all yours I'm done on this statistic; the records and arithmetic speak for themselves.
^^^ "Sorry it didn't go your way" YOUR WORDS. And your explanation (I've asked 3 times now) for WHAT didn't "Go my way" is????? You KEEP missing the point. With your "Sorry it didn't go your way" comment that you left out in every response since, you're saying something didn't go my way. Great. WHAT? And you're still struggling with a simple answer to a simple question. PS. It was me, NOT you that pointed out that Lewis had the 3rd highest winning percentage in history. Feel free to see my post #398. Your post where you think you came up with the winning percentage number was #415.
No lucky to be alone against Rosberg or Bottas in an ultra dominant Mercedes. Sorry for not being clear enough because of my English.
Rosberg is a champ and beat a returning MSC quite easy, its fair to say Rosberg is / was one of the best on the grid when he won the title, Only a couple of drivers was rated as good at the time, one was his team mate and the other the lead driver at Redbull. Even Schumacher him self said Rosberg was very quick. Bottas is currently making light work of Gasly too....
Yes, Hamilton is just a flash in the pan. A flash that lasted for the most part of 15 years. This has got to be the longest flash in the history of the word "flash" LOL Image Unavailable, Please Login
You’re not very consistent on that particular point. Indeed for years you find it normal and efficient that a top team bets on a leading driver who also establishes a hierarchy within the team. And according to you, the latter has no say in the choice of the second pilot? This is absurd.
These are 2 different things ! A team may favour the driver who they think will bring them more success. I agree with that a top team must have some priority. That doesn't mean that driver can decide who the other driver will be. It would be very destructive for a team to be dictated by a driver: case of Alonso everywhere he went ! I only know of 2 drivers who had in their contract a clause about the choice of second driver: - Ayrton Senna prevented Derek Warwick from joining him when he was at Lotus. - Alain Prost vetoed Ayrton Senna to come when he was at Williams.
So Mercedes paid 40 millions euros Lewis every year. And never asked him his preference as a second driver ? Sorry William this is a nonsense. This is why Bottas was his teammate between 2017 and 2021.
As usual, you are making too much of this, but you have no proof of what you advance. Consulting Hamilton is one thing, but being told who to recruit is a different matter. I would be surprised if the Mercedes-Benz board (well above Toto Wolff) would appreciate that ! As for Bottas, I suspect Toto Wolff wanted to avoid a repeat of the conflict that developed between Hamilton and Rosberg. Skillwise, Bottas must have known he wasn't at the same level as Hamilton anyway. Before criticising Mercedes, look at Ferrari first !
I don’t criticize Mercedes at all! And just imagine Bottas going to Mercedes in 2017 and secretly thinking « it’s a shame Lewis is a better driver compared to me because for once I will have a dominant car .. » I’m pretty sure Bottas still believe he is a better driver than Lewis. Each of them believe they are the best driver of the field. Concerning the Mercedes board they had as a leader a very quick driver ( Lewis) with all the attributes of the political correctness. And his opinion didn’t matter when they had to renew the Bottas contract ?
When Bottas contract came to renewal, probably Toto Wolff looked who was available, and if it would be a good fit for the team. Not a "wet behind the ears" F2 graduate, but rather an experienced F1 driver (like RB did with Perez) and those aren't always available. Contrary to what you think, most drivers know exactly where they stand in the ranking, and don't live in the illusion they are the best. Those who joined F1 with inflated ego are soon brought down to reality. Apart a few exceptions, most drivers have gone through the ranks winning championships in lower categories, but in F1 they reach "la crème de la crème", and are among the 12 or 15 very best. Only the cars will make the difference.
Only the cars will make the difference .. Most drivers knows exactly where they stand in the rankings.. Sorry but both aren’t true. ( my opinion).
At last we agree that Lewis' results are entirely down to the car and not some inherent greatness of his. Glad we finally put that to bed.
Say what you like about his time at Merc. Bottas has pretty good set of stats, a set 90% of the drivers who have gone through a F1 career (1950-2022) would envy.
But Both Bottas, and Rosberg say they was treated equally, Lewis never got any special treatment, am going to have to believe them over any else. What they say is far more likely to be true.
Most drivers who reach F1 know they aren't world champion material after a couple of years. - because they realise they aren't as skilled as they though (speed, adaptability, feedback, etc ...). - because they don't attract the attention of top teams, so won't have the top cars. - because they are not on any sponsor's list. But there is still a good living to be made being mid-field or #2 in a top team if lucky. Also going through F1 can open the doors to well paid drives in other series: WEC, Indycar, IMSA, DTM, GT3, etc ...
