Would a PUT fix/replacement at a licensed dealer be warrantied?
Just for UK viewers of this thread, there is a well known Do you mean warrantied beyond the remaining term of the power warranty? I doubt it. But they can be fixed and it's not the same cost as it once was. I'm on my 2nd PTU but the first was replaced for a different reason prior to delivery. So far, mine is OK, and that's with some serious driving! I wouldn't worry about it, life is too short.
I placed a deposit on an FF this week having been looking for a 550/575 maranello for 5 years. Subject to an inspection. I'm in the UK. I booked the car in with Joe Macari at the end of July, as long as that's good then the deal is already done. One of the techs was booking me in rather than admin staff and he was very willing to chat about the car and things to look out for, extremely helpful indeed. He mentioned Ferrari imminently have an offical repair "kit" for the ptu issues on FF's that seems to be circa the same cost as the aftermarket solutions currently available. He explained, if anything ,that the ptu was the only real weak point on these cars and with an official repair kit about to become available it makes it a far less expensive problem to solve. Less as in a £10K fix rather than complete replacement. Fingers crossed mine passes inspection and I'm looking forward to it arriving.
In the sense that my out of warranty C300, which has been very reliable, had some camshaft issues a while back. Mercedes did the fix and warrantied that part for two years, so if the camshafts went again, they'd replace them under warranty. But that warranty is specific to that part and that labor only, not the whole drive train. Would assume Ferrari would warranty a PTU but I would understand if not. So it sounds like they've diagnosed the issue, yeah? Any details on what the repair kit does and if it is a long term fix?
I hate to say this, but unless Ferrari guaranteed their repair kit for a lifetime, or at least 200K miles, and transferable, I'd go with a third party repair.
Honestly I'm not sure who I spoke to, he was very helpful though and pleasant. That should be a given when in a customer facing role, but these days it's not as common as it used to be. So when you do come across a helpful person it's noticeable.
The 3rd party suppliers have had PTU repair kit parts for some time. https://www.eurospares.co.uk/Ferrari/FF/FF_(USA)/PartDiagrams/0027/PTU_REPAIR_KIT Not sure if this directly translates over to official Ferrari parts diagrams.
I'm looking at this from my phone but in no way can I see that there is fluid in this tank. Can someone circle where the minimum line is on this photo? I'm currently checking mine as a comparison.
Thinking to buy an FF as I really think it s the prefect Ferrari in this moment, and what would be my first v12. But I do not want to pay 40k if it happens and be always thinking about it and do not enjoy the car. Does anyone knows a rebuilder of PTU in continental Europe? This can make a big diferente for me Thanks Enviado desde mi SM-A505FN mediante Tapatalk
Hi Juan, Don't hesitate to buy an FF they are excellent cars, PTU repairs are a fraction of the cost of new and we have done them for customers in many European countries. The Ferrari V12's are great cars and the FF is no exception I'd love to be able to get one myself one day but I need to repair a lot of PTU's before I can afford one. Martin
Yes, we made all the parts from higher grade materials and have made changes from the factory design so it's not just replacing like for like. We have done 30 repairs now over a 2 year period. I'm not sure if I can include a link to the page with more info so if it's not allowed please delete my reply. https://www.parkesperformance.co.uk/2022/02/modified-ferrari-ff-gtc4-lusso-ptu-rebuild/ Martin
Can the PTU be disconnected? if the car is left in Sport mode at all times, where it is RWD only, does that affect the longevity of the PTU?
Hi, The PTU can't be disconnected no, it's integrated into many other systems and works extremely well when it's up and running correctly. Sport mode does not turn the PTU off, the only time the PTU is not being used and is returned to neutral is in 6th and 7th gear, contrary to popular belief it's still operational in 5th gear. There seems to be no pattern to when the PTU will fail and if you look back through this thread there has been lots of time and effort put into compiling a list of when cars failed and the results are very random. The first car we repaired is not quite a daily car but not far off, it's also been driven as they were meant to be this has been "on test" for 2 years and has not lost any hydraulic fluid so we can say that the repair is successful. Cheers Martin
Hi Daniel, We haven't done any from the US yet, we've done 1 to Kuwait and 1 to Saudi. But if you would like to send the address by PM or email I can get shipping costs. Cheers Martin
Thanks Martin, hope not to need it ... but if so we ll get in contact to see how to manage it. I love the car and want one Thanks Enviado desde mi SM-A505FN mediante Tapatalk
Thanks Papou, don't get me wrong, 10k are a lot of money, but this is something I can live with if it fails not being scare if driving the car. I mean the major service in my old 355 was already around 8k if do not remember wrong. 40-45k yes becomes a problem to me and a potential reason to avoid the car, but if we talk 10 for the sensor and 10 por the ptu in case both goes off at the same time (low probability) I can make it. Yes and probably many other potencial issues, but do not expect yo have them all at the same time (crossfingers). Kr Enviado desde mi SM-A505FN mediante Tapatalk
The more I drive them the more I love them, I've been working with Ferrari's for 24 years and the v12's have always been my love. The FF is an amazing car and you won't regret owning one. Hopefully one day I might get there. Cheers
Hi Martin, you have me intrigued. Please can you elaborate on how the PTU is still operating in 5th gear? The Ferrari marketing material (and even the handbook?) seems to be quite clear thar the PTU’s two forward gears are matched to the DCT’s effective speed of 2nd and 4th gear and have slipping clutches which allow the PTU to match the DCT’s 1st and 3rd gears. Is the PTU really delivering useful traction in 5th gear?
