https://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/city-of-toronto/1976-ferrari-dino-308-gt4-for-sale/1620383746 I haven't looked at it, local to me.
Another 1975 308 GT4 has popped up on BaT: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1975-ferrari-308-gt4-33/
Yeah, those early US bumpers aren't the most attractive. The later US bumpers aren't really attractive either, but at least better than the early ones. IMHO. Sad that Euro bumpers couldn't just be the standard in the US too.
They (all the early impact bumper designs, not just on the 308GT4) weren’t touted as safety bumpers so much as devices to reduce repair costs in low speed impacts. They were there to allegedly reduce insurance premiums as well. There’s no way those bumpers would meaningfully reduce injuries to pedestrians, so they really shouldn’t be considered “safety” bumpers.
More like they were mandated to give domestic car manufacturers a leg up on the foreign competition by making those imports look much less pretty. Indirect protectionism at work [emoji6] Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
Only one day left and just at 37k. Someone is going to steal this one! Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat.com mobile app
Oops 34k and change. That’s what I get going from memory. [emoji849] Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat.com mobile app
Final sale price is often a very long way off of the 24 hour price, but there are signs of the Ferrari market and really many collector cars softening. Many recent Ferrari sales have gone unsold and not met reserve. The GT4 had a rather unsustainable rise in value in my opinion. I see these coming back to earth in the next few years.
The 100k plus have been for very original models or restored models, most other GT4s are selling for modest prices.
Looks like the last GT4 “project” on BAT sold for 45K. Not too bad for a project. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat.com mobile app
And that escalated quickly! It got up to $70k less than an hour after being posted. The next time I looked, it was at $80k. It's a fairly stellar example, can't wait to see what it sells for. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1979-ferrari-308-gt4-7/
They really did a good job on that one. I looked through the book they posted. Even the 'pushed in' bumpers were restored to their original state.
Very nice car but I’m curious if there are point deductions for the shinny door jam paint, lack mat black paint on the lid seams, the exhaust shroud delete, no cats, ride height change?
Since it took "First in Class" at Cavallino, I'm gonna say there were no points deducted for any of that. I'd agree with that, or maybe even more. The trend seems to be doubling in price in the last few minutes after sitting for days at $80,000. It won't surprise me if this hits $160,000.
I thought they should be body color. Looks to be a very nice example. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
Very nice car but I’m curious if there are point deductions for the shinny door jam paint, lack mat black paint on the lid seams, the exhaust shroud delete, no cats, ride height change?" It only matters if you are buying the car to trailer it to shows. If you are buying the car to drive it...
I was hoping for a response from someone who could share some their knowledge and or expertise on Concours judging. Fiat nurse if you want to track your car that’s great but there are others who enjoy the restoring and preserving the magic of Ferrari.
I'll state this again incase you missed it, since the car took "First in Class" at Cavallino, I'm gonna say there were no points deducted for any of the things you called out. Cavallino is one of the strictest Ferrari judging events around, cars with less than 98 points might as well stay home. That being said, it's also likely that an owner of a 308 GT4 will know more about it than the judges. You could also read the FCA National Concours Judging Guidelines to gain greater insight (which you can find here). But if I may point out a few things: I don't see an issue with the door jambs, and it also looks to me the matte black paint is in the places it should be (but kind of hard to tell for certain). Based on photos from the book: the exhaust grille was installed for Cavallino, the ride height is normal, and cats aren't visible (so those won't matter in judging). I like keeping my car in as close to factory condition as possible, with the exception of those hideous US side marker lights (I removed those from my car, and that would likely be points deducted if I were to ever get it judged). No car deserves something that ugly attached to it.
I saw the “First in Class” and that raised my curiosity to the standard for the cars originality for judging. These cars were painted with a single stage acrylic lacquer in 1979. Ferrari applied several coats then and buffed the acrylic lacquer to a very high shine. The interior door jambs were not buffed. I also think the ride height is incorrect for 1979 USA. I’m sure there is someone who can explain why there was a change in coilover spring height in ‘79.
Good day Nino1964, I do not know the exact reason for the height change, but it could have been a mechanism to help with bumper height requirements of various countries. Secondly, having had an early-ish (made in 1975, sold in 1976) 308GT4 myself for many years, I found that the bottom of the spare tire well would take a beating on various road surfaces and inclines. Thirdly, I also found that the front tires would slighly rub on the fenders when turning almost at lock and this was with correct XWX's and factory rims. All would explain a desire to slightly increase the ride height. Cheers, Sam
