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Official 308 GT4 Market Thread

Discussion in '308/328' started by guygowrie, May 2, 2012.

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  1. dyerhaus

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    Mine is also a '75 (sold new in '76). Apparently my ride height was lowered when I bought the car. That has created problems, and I'm getting it set back to normal. I have the correct wheels and tires on my car, but see the photos as to what happened on two different occasions while driving. I'm not a fan of damaging my car through regular driving, so that ride height issue has to be fixed. No concours judge would deduct points for that (especially with my photos) as it falls under "safety" updates.

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  2. samsaprunoff

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    Good day Christopher,

    My car was a USA model, with only 15K miles, and no modifications to the suspension/wheels/tires (e.g. factory all the way) and it still did the same fender damage as you indicated in your pictures. One could assume that perhaps my suspension setup had age related issues, but this was back in 1981/82 and so the car and suspension was only 5-6 years old at the time.

    Cheers,

    Sam
     
  3. dyerhaus

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    Interesting! The previous owner redid the suspension in 2014/2015 on mine (got photographic proof and everything), thus making mine only 6 to 7 years old. I am pretty certain mine is sitting lower than it should, but that's irritating to know they may not fix the potential damage-causing issue. May have to look deeper into it, maybe there's a bad shock?
     
  4. classicalfas

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    Wow, mines a '75 too and I had the same damage. When I received the car I just figured it was damaged in shipping some how and didn't notice till a week or so after. I kind of pushed it back in a bit so it's not so noticeable.
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  5. absostone

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    That could be from the car being on an incline or decline while turning sharp maneuver . Or the wheel has more lock in one direction
     
  6. bitsobrits

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    Have you considered having the fender lips rolled along the top part of the arch? It would significantly more clearance and would be undetectable to most all observers.
     
  7. samsaprunoff

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    Good day Christopher,

    On my car it was on both sides and so it was not a single issue. Secondly, shocks do not normally fail in such a manner. Typically they leak and/or loose their ability to properly dampen the springs when in use. It is possible for a shock to not fully extend, but this would be the result of a significant failure inside the shock or if the shock was physically damage. In my case the issue was on both sides and so it is highly unlikely that two shocks failed together, in the same manner, without any other noticeable affect when in normal driving. No, I think it was a design/factory issue... either in the suspension setup or when the front fender wheel wells were made.

    I do not do anything about it, as it was only when the wheels were turned to the extreme left/right... which I then avoided.

    Cheers,

    Sam
     
  8. Mark C Harvey

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  10. dyerhaus

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  11. absostone

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    Im not sure why it sold that High Not as nice as the Naples euro cars from 2016? . 2 Bidders and maybe Alfredinos glasses were hidden in the car? IDK
     
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  12. dyerhaus

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    Well, it was a nut-and-bolt restoration with a big, full-color book documenting the entire process. It also took First in Class at Cavallino (no easy task), and it wasn't red. I think all that contributes to perceived high price this sold for (though I guarantee you the owner spent more than it sold for on the restoration).
     
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  13. lagunacc

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    Certainly not. Many small issues everywhere.
     
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  14. absostone

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    Its a good looking car though.
     
  15. lagunacc

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    Restoration was around $250k.
     
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  16. absostone

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    I Like the vapor filter canister
     
  17. ScottS

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    YouTube video sold me. Didn’t see it on bat when it went.


    Notte Blu? Stunning car with well documented restoration. Hope owner is on here. Guts to set THIS market.


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  18. xpensivewino

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    It was a very nice car, but I’m really shocked at the price. You can buy several 12 cylinder cars for this money, 330 2+2, 512 BB etc. My assumption is this car was a must have for the two bidders, devil be damned on the cost. What scares the hell out of me about BAT is there is generally zero mechanical provenance. People pay $250k for a car and really have no idea as to what is in their engine and gear box. When the seller was asked about the mechanicals his answer was very vague, and or “we have a great reputation” If I drop $250k on a car that has a normal value of $50-100k the mechanical documentation better be impeccable. I’m not suggesting the car isn’t mechanically equal to the exterior, but you’d expect the auction to be mostly about, “tell me about the piston rings, what brand and spec valves did you use, who did the work on the heads?” Instead it’s about, wow it’s really shiny, the leather is from England. I hope the buyer absolutely loves the car, and maybe I’m just cynical because I can’t drop a quarter mil on a $100k car, but for my money I’d like to see more attention paid to the mechanical aspects of the car.
     
  19. 375+

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    Absurd. BaTsh*t crazy. Another sign of a market top IMO.
     
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  20. desmomini

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    All true, but that said, did you catch the clowns asking about engine rebuild specifics at the 20 minute point? Someone jumped in and set them straight with, "You had 7 days to ask these questions!" Priceless!
     
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  21. dyerhaus

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    That was so lame. I mean, the car went through a thoroughly documented nut-and-bolt restoration, "what did the engine rebuild entail?" at 20 minutes remaining wasn't even a relevant or valid question. "Clowns" is being kind.
     
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  22. lagunacc

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    Asking relevant and detailed questions means BaT isn't for you. The seller was vague on the phone also.

    To justify Bat's results you have to look beyond the cars. An Euro GT4 freshly restored by Ferrari in Maranello sold for 160k euros.
     
  23. xpensivewino

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    I could see paying north of $100k for a factory restored car, that would make sense. Let’s say the car that sold yesterday was Enzo’s personal car, or someone like Steve McQueen, then I could see justification for $250k. I like GT4’s and have been looking to buy one for years, but ain’t no way I’m passing on a 512BB for one.
     
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  24. JohnnyTT

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    Hi all. So I was happily one of the bidders on that car. I saw it in person and met the seller and the owner. The seller was a friend of the owner who does a lot on bat. That’s why they were representing the car. Unfortunately, he’s not a Ferrari guy, but good at what he does.

    They owner, on the other hand, is a life long Ferrari owner, racer, and restorer. He went through so many details on that car with me, and the whole car was restored, new, or rebuilt. It was a no expense spared gift to his dad. It was special to their family.

    It went for more than I expected, and hesitation made me stop bidding. But the time and dollars that went into it was more than that price. I went through the receipts.

    The car really struck me, and I’m sorry I didn’t get it. I was going to keep it beautiful, while driving the $h!t out of it.


    Happily looking for another, if anybody is selling or knows of a pristine one. But don’t be silly.


    Best.
     

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