Daniel Ricciardo way overrated.

Couldn't agree more. His schtick is tiring. He acts a lot more like a jester than a chariot racer.

 

Spot on with the Piastri comment, I think he is wasting his time with a rubbish car, Alpine WILL come good and then they will all be looking for a seat in one

Piastri should stay with Renault, let them build a car around him and watch the other teams drop by the wayside

 

Agree, Piastri hasn't been in a substandard car for the last 3 years, he drove for the team that made Mick Schumacher a Champion and MS hasn't exactly set the world on fire. The words "flatter to deceive" come to mind, ............even Lando hasn't been able to extract miracles from that car, only destroy his teamate for whatever reason.
All will be revealed, remember the great expectations of teenage prodigy Mike Thackwell in the early 1980's?

 

That's what puzzles me about the Ricciardo/Piastri/Mclaren situation. What possible benefit does Mclaren get by buying Ricciardo out of his contract for a huge sum, putting piastri in...and still having the 4th best car in an ideal situation next year? Seems like a shocking waste of time, money and talents to me.

 

LOL

 

100% agree with that. Buying out Ricciardo comes with around 25 million dollars of buy-out (even if they settle, it will be substantial). Salary differences will probably further soften the blow. But does McLaren expect the ability of the rookie to be so much better that it justifies this amount the kick out the experienced under-performer? Do they need another young talent, to build a car around? Or do they think their star driver will see more of a challenge in beating Piastri? Or is it simply stirring crap up at their nearest competitor, you know, if you can't build the car to beat them, destroy their team spirit

 

Probably like most teams, McLaren want their second driver to score points regularly and without complaining about the car.

Ricciardo blaming the car all the time doesn't help his cause, compared to Norris who just get on with it !

When a driver is so far behind his team mate, he is the problem, not the car.

 

Disagree. Ricci has been open about the adjustments needed to adapt and his work towards that. He is not saying - oh poor me the car is the issue, Im as good as Lando lol. Thats no where in the press. His way of driving is the issues vs the cars way of reacting. He stated that clearly in the Autosport article I posted yesterday. If anything he comes across as methodical in his approach at attempting to address the issue of his car and what it does based on his given inputs.

The attitude here is hilarious. A jester. Really as if anyone here 'feels' what he goes through. God forbid a driver have an issued integrating with a car. Its an art and almost black at that. FA is the best at doing so. And Max it appears. We also have no idea how teams take driver feedback and adjust. I would think with some logic that they would want that feedback, use it and hope it adds value/points to the tally for each driver.

Certainly thats an ideal not easy to achieve at all times.

 

I do.

 

I think the what most detractors are finding offensive is his behavior, the antics, and him constantly running his mouth. He brings up this win last year constantly. I get it you won and that great... let's move on now and address you issues beyond the "it's a bit tricky... " or "not quiet there..." lines. Just shut-up for once if possible and focus on your driving. Maybe then I could have some sympathy and understanding because I'm sure it's not easy. Stop being the clown for a change and embed yourself in your craft.

 

Very well. We were discussing him a few months ago with "our very own" Isobel ("Izzy") on this forum.
As the older among us, who studied classical latin, know: "Arx tarpeia Capitoli proxima"
More or less: "there is only a very fine dividing line beetween honors and degradation".

Rgds

 

Danny expecting a few quid upon termination of his contract:

https://www.planetf1.com/news/daniel-ricciardo-seeking-21-million-dollar-pay-out-for-mclaren-contract-termination/

 

Bank the 20 mil, get a Le Mans drive, no worries Mate.

 

'How I like you driving? - I'll give you $21m to not drive my car ...'

 

Whatever he settles for, McLaren gets back if he signs with another F1 team is how i understand it. I can't see any team, however, paying anything more than a couple or so million for a year. If he can't deliver more points cash than he costs then, what's the point?

Either way, I won't miss him at all if he's gone.

 

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Between Ricciardo whose way of driving is the issues bringing poor result, and Norris who gets on with it, goes faster, regularly score points, which one would you rather keep ? It's a no brainer .
So it's no surprise to me that Zak Brown wants to conclude the Ricciardo experiment ASAP and try a young hotshoe from next year to move his team ahead.
What does he have to lose ?

 

La roche Tarpéienne est proche du Capitole.

 

So he is not a professional lol. And u in F1 are?? It’s just his personality you don’t like. Life goes on….

 

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/why-piastris-attempt-to-join-mclaren-carries-risky-implications/10351075/

Rgds

 

Exactly: hero one day, a zero the day after.

(See the link for the "Autosport" article in Post 370)

I'm still not sure to be able to figure out why Piastri is so keen on making that move to McLaren, unless he wasn't expecting F.A to leave Alpine, and started the process before that announcement, because he didn't want to be put on lease to Williams for a season or two. But McLaren and Alpine are more or less on par these days, so why not stay at Alpine and avoid burning a few useful bridges as he has just done? Or "he knows something that we don't" and is convinced that the 2023 McLaren will be the better car...

Rgds

 

Well, I would think that McLaren offers a better long term prospect than Alpine. Mark Webber must have thought that.
Alpine, or Renault has been in and out of F1, and rather inconsistent, since the titles gained with Alonso.
Compared to that, McLaren has always been a steady team, never too far from the top bar the Honda-hybrid years.

 

That’s a calculus he will have evaluated and will need to live with. Clearly budget wise the operation that funds McLaren are happy to spend money to lose Ricci. It’s F1 and keeps us interested. Zack also must share much of the blame for this “experiment”. So far McLaren show no hint of moving forward! Next is how long do you keep Zack around and NOT move forward?

How long does Lando wait? After next year and they show no improvement does he start looking around?? That will be year 6 for him. Title chance is already shrinking!

 

In these matters the simplest explanation is usually the best. Piastri likely knew nothing about Alonso’s plans, and wanted to seize the long-awaited chance to drive in F1 — after all, we’ve been talking about him and F1 seats since at least last year’s silly season. In careers measured in years, the loss of one is significant. Piastri jumped at what appeared to be the best opportunity available to him, and was no doubt as surprised as the rest of us were at Alonso’s announcement.

 

I’m not 100% sure what that sentence means but I’ll take a crack at it and assume:

Surprisingly no. Just a finance guy who likes F1 and has an opinion.

if you’ve read my posts, I think I’ve made it fairly clear that what I don’t like is his that he’s always “on” and never takes a break from talking about a few instances of glory in the past and just his overall demeanor… in contrast to his inability to live up to expectations.

Some fans have difficulty embracing star athletes of any sport who embrace the camera more than their craft.