SF90 Stradale Resale

I saw that one too--looks like an awesome car. I think as more of these come out, along with the spider versions the prices are going to keep going down.

 

There is a Rosso Dino for sale at the local Bentley dealership. They are notorious for very high pricing. They recently dropped the price by $55K.

https://www.naplesluxuryimports.com/used-Naples-2021-Ferrari-SF90+Stradale-+-ZFF95NLAXM0263968

 

worse? for whom?

 

Hybrid and future 100% electric have no vocation to be collectible, they are consumable cars.
The maintenance costs for the following owners will eventually become stratospheric, risking making the vehicle unsaleable...

 

No one can know what the future holds and whether these cars will become collectables.

 

yea you're right, maintenance costs on gas powered cars aren't stratospheric at all. I spent almost $70k over 2 years maintaining a diablo I owned, I couldn't wait to dump it.

 

The Diablo is an extreme example
In the case of hybrids, imagine the number of electronic components, the all-wheel drive, the batteries when they need to be changed (which in many cases will put an end to the use of the car given the sale value it will have at this time), the suspensions, the gearbox ... which must take as much weight, torque and power ....
Without forgetting the turbo and the mechanical parts of the engine
That's why I say they are expendable cars
Good luck to those taking this direction !

 

You may very well be right but it reminds me of one of my Dad’s predictions when electric windows and other advances were introduced back in the sixties. He swore never to buy a car with those “unnecessary” frills. He said they would break down and cost you a fortune to repair.

 

918 P1 LaFerrari many others state differently - all have had their issues add new batteries etc and risen in price and collectibility.
Carrera GT 959 F40 people said the same thing - they all quadrupled as many said the maintenance will kill them in price. Today maint is no longer a factor to owners - will be the same on the SF90 V8. much like the Scuderia 430 and others even with higher volume are still doing very well.
Few years from exotics being converted to full battery - SF90 will be a special car V8 1000 hp.
Could be wrong but I have heard that song before - last Viper Carrera GT Senna Speciale and many other cars I have collected all have risen when others said differently.

Limited editions / low production exotics will only go up with raising demand - especially the great drivers that make wonderful noise.
Ferrari 16M 10,000 miles decade later has risen in price - my favorite car in the garage. Top was the price of a Tesla to repair and took 6 months - still one of the all time greats ever built under the watchful eye of Schumacher and was the first spider to concentrate on weight loss I could go on about the 16M and many other editions that people will never sell, that love affair will continue vs go away with this last generation of hybrid engine. Time will tell.

Anyway - I disagree. The new generation of tech people will simply modify strengthen and lighten batteries just like Mclaren has done with the P1 and or be able to rebuild the battery if desired.

 

day355 is a Luddite, resisting all progress. There is no point in arguing...

 

Just facts - grew up with American muscle still have cars like 69Z28. Despised the 918 and P1 and when offered turned them down but fast forward it was a massive mistake. These companies know what we want before we know we want it - they sell cars by making them faster and more appealing and for each of those those that don't there are 1000 that do,

 

I know what you mean. I am restoring our E-Type now, but I also know that new cars are infinitely better than old ones. I am not stuck in the past...
My original Mini weighed something like 600 kilos. It was good fun but no sane person would buy such a death trap nowadays.

 

Many of these cars were bought to flip because of the initial large premiums. Note that 80% of the cars for sale have under 500 miles. The inventories will eventually settle out to more typical levels.

 

Two Healey one Big Gold ther restoring MK1 3000 to produce a rally Healey. Also own Clark Gable XK120 Jaguar modified by Barris.
Good luck on your restoration.

 

In the spring of 2018, I took delivery of from Jaguar, an E-Type Reborn car. Factory turnkey restoration of Series 1, 4.2 liter FHC. A little pricey, but done by Jaguar. I can't believe how "light" the car is. I certainly would not want to be in an accident in it. Good think I like it for its looks! I don't drive it too much. Just enough to keep it in good health.

 

Don't believe there were many early buyers given allocations that weren't very good customers in some way and or plan to receive Spider.
Most of the guys I know who do not receive limited editions buyeverything they can to either keep or move up in line.
If an SF90 higher power less weight addition is introduced - prior SF90 owner at minimum.
Premiums at dealers are who knows money - likely the dealer more than the customer.
In these times people make knee jerk reactions ... imo has nothing to do with the car itself.

 

I was up in Monterey and the SF90s were stunners. Many of them around, and really are beautiful to behold. Remember when there were 60 Pistas available in the US? Glad I got the SF90 Spider. Will always be special.

 

So…what you’re saying is Ferrari is destined for failure, as soon there becomes no reason for passionate Ferrarista’s to buy cars that are all expendable? Is the sky falling as well? Do tell, what direction should Ferrari and its buyers take, if not hybrid or full electric? Buck the trend, forget about emission standards all over the world, and continue with ICE only? Maybe get out in front of the hydrogen or methane movements? LOL SMH

 

they tanked like rocks... dealers dont want them.... so many for sale....

 

Well I will answer you !
LCDM's policy was the right one !!!
No IPO and stay below 10,000 cars per year to benefit from different injunctions!
At least it was time to win in a positive way.
What you don't understand is that once the effect of novelty has passed for full electric cars, there won't be enough buyers at this price to keep the brand alive and buy soulless cars.
The equation is simple despite what you may think, no ICE engines = no Ferrari, just a badge !!!
You have probably never heard of the era of 1993 when the brand was at its worst.
You can always try to lie to yourself, but the brand is destined to become a service company ! LOL SMH

 

It was predictable ...

 

Really.
1993 F40 production ends and F50 introduced - the agony at Ferrari must have been huge, fast forward and these are the most sought after cars in the world.
Add most advanced / sophisticated F1 cars ever built in 1993 - called F93a
Just because you say it doesn't make it true, so who is lying to themselves?
Battery no battery - customers today and future are not you - factories at this level know their customers and their future. Understand you don't like Ferrari today or their future unless you post about it like the new V12 supposedly or the new engine supposedly or or or supposedly.
Do you see one person selling their hybrid exotic for less than they paid for it.
918 LaFerrari P1 SF90 and Lamborghini Mclaren Ferrari has sold out their hybrid.
THe 918. P1 La all are costing owners well over 100k to replace their battery, they do not care or does the market.

Electric exotics - Lotus Mcaren Pininafarina all sold out electric hybrid at a substantial price.
Tesla Roadster Hummer - all sold out and premium with over 100k over msrp.

 

Yes the world will end
Mercedes is spending 47Billion cars and infrastructure announced this week.
Many said same about Tesla - Musk saw the future, auto business lead follow or get out.
Apple and others not far behind. Ferrari will do better than the rest - with customers lined up out the door and around the block.

 

There will always be rich guys to buy all of the cars. Will forever be a status symbol, and hopefully, an enthusiast brand. Ferrari is still bigger than just the cars it makes. Have you seen the new dodge charger? Replicates some sound...yes, it is not an engine, I know.