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  1. Frank_C

    Frank_C F1 Rookie
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    #1951 Frank_C, Aug 29, 2022
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    Lowered the 812 1.25" with Novitec springs and a more aggressive geometry (and C..........no more roll, no hint of understeer and just rotation, rotation, rotation........it thinks it's a 911 wiggling it's ass around the apex!

    Back to the topic. No more HP needed, no batteries needed- heavy enough as it is.

    Actually, since the SF90 is the "top" "sports car" now, why not turn it back into a gentleman's GT with more active suspension tweaks for its swan song.

    Go back to it's 50s roots.
     
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  2. Senad

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  3. day355

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    On mine, I have the springs, ride height and geometry of the TDF. The lightweight optional OZ rims.
    The car drives really well, and body roll and body movements are much better controlled.
    Clearly not a "fast" track car, but does the job on slower tracks.
    My buddy's is stock, and if you see what he reveals about the car, ESC off...The Pista is 200 meters behind with an excellent driver...But again a professional driver makes a huge difference.
    Back to 167 :)
     
  4. Senad

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    *Confirm, differences, etc.
    Sorry for the typos , been treating patient and reading post while waiting a patient to get numb
     
  5. ohno

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    No problem! And that's exactly how it should be: The Ferrarichat is more important than work!:D
     
  6. john Owen

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    Are you an undertaker ?
     
  7. Senad

    Senad Formula Junior

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    Hahahaha
    Almost
    Most people are more afraid from dentists than undertakers
     
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  8. ohno

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    Let's assume that the vehicle in the satellite image is the new F167 (or parts of it): The new, long sloping roof without
    a rear window is very striking. This roof emphasizes the simple, monolithic character of the new vehicle design.
    The whole thing reminds with this roof attachment also a little bit like a power boat (with racing visor).
    This trick should make the new vehicle look a little more compact and powerful at the same time. Maybe that roof also
    has an aerodynamic feature (think of the 599 GTB's flying buttresses), but that is of course (like everything in my post)
    pure speculation...:D
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  9. dcmetro

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    Very interesting, thanks a lot. I feel like a CIA analyst analyzing the latest Chinese stealth fighter ahah
     
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  10. ANOpax

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    Sorry to rain on everyone’s part time CIA work but there’s no way the satpic shows 167. Look at how far forward the glasshouse is in the satpic and compare it to the mule photos. They are not the same platform.
     
  11. 350MH83

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    Isnt that a Lusso? Or something based on a Lusso?
     
  12. ANOpax

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    Judging by the size of the shadows cast, it’s high riding so could be a Purosangue - hence the Lusso-like Pano roof.
     
  13. jpalmito

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    They are not enough stupid to let outside and uncovered a prototype.
    This should be something else.
     
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  14. Newjoint

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    It looks like a titanio SP3 to me with that narrow waist. But the again I’m nearsighted [emoji851]


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  15. ohno

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    ANOpax said: “...but there’s no way the satpic shows 167. Look at how far forward the glasshouse
    is in the satpic and compare it to the mule...“

    No: I think the windscreen ends at the black line (dotted red by me in the picture below). IMO it´s
    definitely a front engine-car. Something seems to be missing in front of this line (dark area).


    ANOpax said: “...Judging by the size of the shadows cast, it’s high riding so could be a Purosangue...“

    No: The sun stands a little lower and all other vehicles also have longer shadows.

    350MH83 said: “Isnt that a Lusso?

    No: I´ve tested this with a top shot of the Lusso before my post. The Lusso has a long, more flat roof.
    But the roof of the car in the picture below is long and sloping/curved, not flat. Look at the sun's
    reflection (red marker arrow).


    350MH83 said: “Or something based on a Lusso?“

    Is there a current development based on the Lusso? I do not think so.

    Newjoint said: “It looks like a titanio SP3 to me with that narrow waist...“

    No: I´ve tested that too.

    Hmm... the only person that could answer to our question(s) and my speculation is day355...:D

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  16. ANOpax

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    The car has a longer shadow than the others. Ergo, it sits higher.

    The PS is a front engined V12

    The PS has similar design cues to the Lusso

    The PS mules show a curved roof which could generate the kind of reflection seen above.

    I’d say that there’s a much higher chance of the photo in question being a PS than 167.

    Ironically, if you turn your attention two cars to the north, you see something much closer in shape to the 167 mule which has been photographed around Maranello.

    But I’m not really sure I understand where this analysis of low res satpic images takes us that we haven’t already been with the hi-res spy shots.
     
  17. maha

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    more than a year ago a screenshot of the google map view of that particular area was shared here on fchat. i don not know if this sattelite image remains same as what it was several months ago but i can remember seeing that particular car along with the sf90 af with other prototypes. that time i initially thought it was a maserati mc20 and didn't investigate further.
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  18. ohno

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    I love a discussion like this! More or less inefficient...:D nevertheless thank you for your answer.


    I’d say that there’s a much higher chance of the photo in question being a PS than 167.

    Perhaps, perhaps not.;)

    The car has a longer shadow than the others. Ergo, it sits higher.

    Correct... but the flat SF90 behind this car has a remarkable shadow too (the shadow partly dives under the vehicle in front).
    And does the silver car stands on its own wheels or something else? We can´t see that.

    Ironically, if you turn your attention two cars to the north, you see something much closer in shape to the 167 mule which has been photographed around Maranello.
    I´ve marked this car in my post (#1903) as a Roma (or perhaps it´s one of the F167 mules).

    But I’m not really sure I understand where this analysis of low res satpic images takes us that we haven’t already been with the hi-res spy shots.

    Haha, that´s part of the game until day355 says “Yes“ or “No“...:D
     

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  19. ohno

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    Hm... but what about the leaked PS images taken in the factory?
    So they're not even safe IN their own house...;)
     
  20. day355

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    You'll be disappointed, but it's not 167 :p.
    And yet 167 is present under Roma bodywork.:D
    What you pointed to as the PS is actually a Levante:)
     
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  21. of2worlds

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    When you are able to see behind the 'curtains' there are no secrets. :cool:
     
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  22. ohno

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    Argh...! It´s always the same: Trial and Error! But that´s part of the game...:D
    What makes you so sure that the declared PS is actually a Levante?
    The resolution of the satellite image, your expert eye or finally... your source?;)
     
  23. day355

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    I don't have an expert eye to see what you see:D
     
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  24. mepassione

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    Speaking if PS do we know when it’s being publicly launched?
     
  25. plastique999

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    Was it Sept 15?


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