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This track imho actually showed just how daft DRS is. If a driver has the car and skill to close up within 1 sec of the driver in front then let him make the move, not give him a distinct advantage.

 

100%

Had the FIA focused on lighter cars (1.8m width with a shorter maximum wheel base), they could've completely dreamed DRS away. The racing would've been superb and not have an artificial element to it.

 

BTW, Does Ocon deserve a better team?

 

Nope

 

Not... yet.

 

Then they would introduce a rule that if someone is within 1 sec of you, your front wing will flip up and create an air dam thus slowing you by 20mph

It is a stupid rule lets knee cap the guy in front, what would the greats of F! think of it.......same as me i would hope

 

Exactly. We know now that close following is very possible with the current regs, for extended periods of time. With that in mind, DRS should be removed to make overtaking a skill rather than a button press.

 

How many incidents/contacts occur during overtaking attempts in corners?
How many on straights using DRS? Here is the answer.
DRS is necessary for safe overtaking with today's race cars; most drivers accept that.
Without DRS blocking would be easier, and overtaking more hazardous.
As for those you say it's an "artificial element" that suppress skills, what about all the drivers' aids that have been added in F1 cars over the years (paddle shift, electronics, various modes, anti-stall, etc...), do they object to that too?
The polemic about DRS leaves its detractors sitting between 2 chairs: F1 is in constant evolution, that's progress.

 

I never saw how close they were at one stage, kudos to both for not crashing...

 

Funny

 

Wow and kudos to both indeed!

 

OK. Now do moveable aero, traction control, ABS, active suspension, tuning the car turn by turn from the pit wall, etc.

 

Lewis Hamilton DNF in Spa, Race Team Radio from the F1 Belgian GP 2022 - YouTube

Hamilton radio. Kept going even when told to turn the car off. Not the first time, either. Likely causing even more damage.

 

What's the difference? He's not a factor.

 

Doesn't bother me, just find it funny that he's destroyed his brand new engine for...what reason exactly? Was already last, had damage. Just turn it off when the team say the engine is in state charlie (which I assume is code word for ****ing ****ed). Don't keep driving it. You can hear on the background radio the engine was struggling.

 

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difference in porpoising between Ferrari and Red Bull...even with the Ferrari raised higher than they like it's pretty bad...

 

I think you miss the point entirely William, none of the above driver aids are a handicap, everyone uses them, yet DRS when deployed does give the guy behind a distinct speed advantage. If the chasing driver has the speed to close within 1 sec, then he should have the ability to overtake by skill. Blame the tracks like Hungary for poor overtaking.
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I'm OK with that.

Movable aero, traction control, ABS and active suspension already exist on street cars, I can't see why they couldn't be on F1s.

They probably will in years to come. As long as the driver is still in full control of the car, why not ?

 

By full control, you mean just turning the wheel or can we dispense with that also? My street car turns the wheel for me, along with working the pedals. At some point, the driver becomes just a delicate bag of ballast and we'll wind up with horse jockeys lying prone on the floor to lighten and lower the car's COG.

ABS and traction control directly remove key elements of driver skill, as would stability control (e.g. automatic over/understeer recovery). I don't see how any of those could be advocated for F1. Of course, I still think there should be a clutch pedal so maybe I'm just old.

 

It's not always the case is it? There are many instances when catching a driver is (relatively) easy, but overtaking him is near impossible if he starts to defend aggressively. Some drivers have come experts at sticking their elbows out, using different lines, blocking the apex, leaving barely enough room for overtaking, etc ... to make the manoeuvre perilious, sometime impossible.
In modern racing this is accepted, where it was frowned upon years ago because of the risks. Hence the number of contacts, block passes and other unsporting behaviours we now have. DRS, in my view, is a solution to that. If a driver can catch a competitor, he is surely entitled to pass him without risking life and limbs.

 

turning a wheel and pressing pedals is highly dangerous.

I vote for 2023 F1 cars to have the driver in an EOD suit, in a secure nuclear bomb proof facility, remote driving the car using a racing simulator on a track cleared of any people in a 10 mile radius.

Can't be too safe.

 

Ricciardo, in the Mclaren cars before 2022, was superior at overtaking WHILE BRAKING IN THE CORNER.

 

Maybe you are not aware that in MotoGP, many riders' aids are already existing, acting on power delivery, traction control, anti-wheelie, anti-spinning, holeshot (sort of anti-dive), etc... During a race, the rider can change the engine mapping, alter the sensibility of traction control, modulate the engine braking or change different settings, etc... all this whilst riding!
Do you think he he just a passenger turning the handlebars?

 

Sorry, but I DGAF about Moto GP.

 

Fortunately they have electronics aids because how the hell they would deal with a two wheels powered by a 300 hp engine and 160kgs weight?