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Discussion in '348/355' started by Robb, May 19, 2015.

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  1. EFerrari34

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  2. carnutdallas

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    That explains it. And some of those parts are impossible to get. Thanks!


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  3. ShineKen

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    LOL.

    I don't expect anyone to remember everything, but I certainly don't expect you to forget the highest sale result of a 355 Spider ever. C'mon John, you snuck that result in there in an attempt to spice up the Spider market. Almost got me there for a second ;).
     
  4. phrogs

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    pulled out or missing
     
  5. johnk...

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    Just found this on Ebay. :D

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  6. ShineKen

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    Isn't that the same notorious seller on Fchat who said no car is worth more than $60k? He might have shot himself in the foot. Posts on Fchat don't get deleted ;).
     
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    $689,998 worth of negotiating room. :cool:
     
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    like whut? Ralph??
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    By "out" I believe he means it is not functioning, as stated in the for sale narrative itself.
     
  10. MRF40@yahoo.com

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    like whut? Ralph??
    "The F355 has a strong running motor but the transmission is currently not engaging into gear, this will need to be taken care of in order for the vehicle to be roadworthy. "

    okay i now understand the reference. thank you.
     
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  11. Ky Fan

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    A 1997 with 29k miles bid to $105k on July 27 and a 1998 with 19k miles sold for $86k (to a bidder who apparently defaulted). Both yellow on black. Both on BAT. Any thoughts on why the newer one with lower models went for so much less? Both seem to have had recent majors and no damage history.


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  12. Ferrarium

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    It all depends whos in the market at any time for one variable.
     
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  13. ShineKen

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    Perhaps people are starting to realize that if you want a 355 Spider, there’s no shortage. What’s the rush? If you missed one, two more new listings will be available next week.

    Ironically, this strategy doesn’t apply to 993’s.
     
  14. Targatime

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    It's incredible how the GTB market has dried up. You'd think based on the listings over the last year that Ferrari made 10x more cabs than B's.
     
  15. Ky Fan

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    Thanks guys. Thinking of selling mine next year and wondering what to put down for asking price.


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  16. ttforcefed

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    In usa feels like we got less gtb. Feels like Spider and gts around all the time
     
  17. JSinNOLA

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    What's the spec, if you don't mind me asking?
     
  18. ShineKen

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    I’ve taken some time to analyze the 355 Registry, which has about 45% of the 355’s made listed. Keep in mind the Registry hasn’t really been updated in a long time. It was about 40% of cars a decade ago.

    Here are my findings:

    1. Between 96-99 Manual GTS’ and Berlinettas in the U.S, if you factor in 50-75 challenge cars, which used up manual GTB’s, U.S delivery is about dead even. Roughly same number of manual street GTS’ and Berlinettas.


    2. The main discrepancy occurred in 1995, where about 375 manual B’s were U.S-delivered compared to about 50 GTS’. The GTS’ must’ve came in late, which is why you rarely see a early production date (duel fuel pumps, etc). This of course assumes GTS owners in the U.S have been registering.


    My hunch… Most 95 cars must have racked up miles. Well above 30k. Probably 45k on avg. The market hasn’t been too kind to higher mileage 355’s, hence owners are unmotivated to bring them to market. They’d rather keep than settle for a number possibly below $175k. Perhaps owners are waiting for clean , sub 30k mi Berlinettas to come to market to help raise the tide on all Berlinettas. I know I am.


    Problem is there really aren’t many left.


    A 60k mi NA widebody 993 just went for $190k. My unbiased opinion says 355’s should command 25% more with the same mileage. That would put a 60k mi 355 in the $235-240k range. It’s only a matter of time the market views higher mileage 355’s in the same light as the choices are very limited and will be even less over time.

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  19. ttforcefed

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    So what do you think How many gtb stick and gts stick in usa?
     
  20. ShineKen

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    Good question :).

    Although the Registry only shows 45% of 355's, there is certainly a U.S bias to the data for obvious reasons. It was created by a U.S 355 owner (@285ferrari ) and first promoted on U.S forums. It's also not that easy to add your car. You think you are adding the car to the Registry only to find Rob makes the final approval. I'm still waiting for him to make changes to my car I requested weeks ago. There could be language barriers from those adding from Europe, South America, and Japan. I actually would like to hear more insight from Rob on the Registry.

    Every time I've plugged a 355's VIN that was advertised for sale in the U.S, it showed up on the Registry. I wonder if others share the same experience. My hunch is 90% of the 355's in the U.S are already in the Registry. Maybe even 95%. Almost all of the challenge cars ( manual Berlinettas) are listed there.

    I won't quote the 95 numbers, because there was alot of data and I should go over it again with a finer comb. 96-99 cars were easier to count.

    I counted 216 U.S-delivered manual GTB's in the Registry between 96-99, which includes the 50-75 challenge cars. There were only like 5 95 challenge cars. That puts manual street Berlinettas from 96-99 in the 140-165 range.

    I counted 130 U.S-delivered 96-99 manual GTS' in the Registry.



    Either way you look at it, there's really not a whole lot of them.
     
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  21. ttforcefed

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    And 3700 about dinos were built… which car wld you rather have?
     
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  22. ShineKen

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    Lol. I don't know much about Dinos and their production numbers, but my data was strictly focused on manual GTB/S' delivered to U.S. Worldwide 355 production numbers are already well known. 5,877 manual Berlinettas and GTS' between 94-99. About 350-375 of those are challenge cars (all manual GTB's). That leaves about 5,500 street cars. Well below worldwide 993 Turbo production numbers :).
     
  23. ShineKen

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    Has anyone plugged a U.S 355 into the Registry and not found anything ?
     
  24. Mitch Alsup

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    I would rather have my 95 F355 B M6.

    It is faster, safer, gets at least as good mileage, and makes better noise.
     

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