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  1. JJ

    JJ F1 World Champ

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    I like him also. He'd be nuts to criticize the team who gives him the car and support every race weekend.
     
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  2. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Amazingly, there is a difference between not liking somebody but still see his part in playing a better strategy.
     
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  3. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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  4. ingegnere

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    LoL but, boy, what an awful song! :eek:

    Is that George Russell singing lead? ;)
     
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  5. DGS

    DGS Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Carlos still collecting screws for his hardware store.

    A "three tire" pit stop is just inexcusable, even in an amateur team.

    And that "unsafe release" should have been called on McLaren, not Carlos.
    Carlos had plenty of room to get ahead of the coming Williams ... if the McLaren crew hadn't been standing in his exit area.

    DWI: Driving While Italian.


    Ferrari is losing the development race, and screwing up strategy.
    So whether you rate Binboy as a development engineer or a strategist, he's failing at both.

    Ferrari destined for 3rd, behind RB and Merc.
     
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  6. Javierix

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    They also don’t know how to count to four (tires).
     
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  7. Giallo 550

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    This. That chick has more brains in half her head than the entire Ferrari strategy department.
     
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  8. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    Was Toto's call. I was having fun.Its fun all this and does not pay my bills lol :)

    George had the track position to change and LH did not. Fairly simple.
     
  9. johnireland

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    The Failure Virus has now infected the entire team. Leclerc and Sainz should openly call for Binotto's replacement.
     
  10. william

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    I agree, but the Mercedes haters here don't like that!
    Because Russell isn't as outspoken as Hamilton in denigrating his car he has been called a Toto bot, and what's not !
     
  11. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Just like last year, Lewis had the opportunity but didn't pit..choose the safe route and lost out.
     
  12. Ferrari 308 GTB

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    At this point in time there are no cookies left to crumble..time for some arrivaderchi to be dished out.:rolleyes:
     
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  13. TheMayor

    TheMayor Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Vegas baby
  14. DGS

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    For that matter, why were the pit boxes open while the SC was leading the pack through the pit lane?

    Don't they usually close the pit boxes for that?

    "Unsafe release" called on race officials. ;)
     
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  15. Javierix

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    Oh, I hate him. But I also think he’s an amazing driver. Best this year other than Max.
     
  16. 05011994

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    Hamilton “My team screwed me, the strategy was in favor of my teammate”, Bottas and Rosberg, Hold our beers”..: Ferrari finds yet another way to screw up one of their driver’s race and Max drives an excellent race to win his home grand prix. You can’t say this year is dull. On to Monza, Forza Ferrari!
     
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  17. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Why do you hate him?
     
  18. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    Not my problem and I did or say nothing to allude to it.
     
  19. Javierix

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    Hate is an exaggeration. He just rubs me the wrong way. He strikes me as whiny and arrogant.
     
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  20. william

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    It's OK with me, but I was wondering why. We all have different perceptions about people, not always rational either.

    For example, I don't like Horner (another whiner?), but at the same time, I think he is the best team principal.

    It's maybe his clean cut look that makes Russell look arrogant, I don't know, but he doesn't come across like that to me.

    Cheers.
     
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  21. werewolf

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    Same blunder as Abu Dhabi ... Mercedes should have learned a lesson, about the choice between track position and fresh softs at the end of the race. Hamilton knew it (just like Abu Dhabi) ... listen to the radio (both times!) :D

    Only difference this time, no one else to blame for Mercedes' mistake :p
     
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  22. DeSoto

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    Russell is a potential big ****, remember his clash with Bottas a year ago, gross. I disliked his attitude at the Belgian GP, when he got that fake podium, as if it hadn't been gifted; a healthy attitutude would have been saying "I'm glad about the points, although I know the "race" (ahem) has been ****".

    Time will tell: success and defeat show the real face of a person.
     
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  23. DeSoto

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    At Abu Dhabi it was different because there was a real chance of ending the race behind the safety car: if they had stopped and Red Bull hadn´t, they would have looked like idiots. Today I guess they decided to split strategies, "just in case". Of course, in hindsight, everything looks easier.
     
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  24. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Yet I think I remember a Monaco GP where Hamilton was called for a tyre change by his pit following a safety car period, and lost the lead and the GP because of it. I think he has always that memory at the back of his mind. Also, he is usually nursing worn tyres.
    Unscheduled tyre changes are a gamble, they don't pay off all the time, mostly when you are leading or near the front.
    You always have the risk of returning to the track in the middle of the pack and find there isn't enough laps left to rejoin the front of the race.
    I believe even Alonso lost a championship once because he couldn't pass Petrov after a pit stop at the last race of the season.

    Cheers.
     
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  25. werewolf

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    nah ... at the time pit decisions needed to made at AD, all teams fully expected a green finish (because the number of laps remaining was a couple more than the average safety car interval at that circuit, and also because of the pre-race agreement). Some just didn't like the way the green finish happened.

    No matter. Mercedes should have learned, track position doesn't matter when Max is charging on fresh softs ... especially on his home circuit, with several laps to go! The right call was fresh softs for both Mercedes ... Hamilton would have at least had a fighting chance at the end (and a race-pace to be pretty damn competitive). Not-pitting Hamilton clearly, and certainly, doomed him to be passed by 3 competitors with fresh softs (all within a second, at the restart, with several laps to go).
     
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