The Purosangue Thread

Automotive News had the chance to talk with the automaker’s commercial and marketing manager, Enrico Galliera, who told the publication Ferrari has received huge interest from customers for the Purosangue. The estimations have shown that the demand goes beyond what Ferrari had expected and what it can deliver short term. "We risk not being able to satisfy demand, and maybe we will need to close the order intake very soon," Galliera said.

Galliera told Automotive News Ferrari started receiving first pre-orders for the Purosangue way back in September 2018 when the original announcement for the model was made. When the Purosangue was confirmed to get a V12 engine, pre-orders “exploded.” Gallieri also acknowledged that a regular life cycle at the company is around four to five years, which means the Purosangue will be produced in a run of between 12,000 and 15,000 units.

 

The only way they are making 15K units in 4-5 years is if they import a bunch of Umpalumpas and get them trained up fast!

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Crikey is that Ramsay Bolton there in the back!

 

What do you mean？

 

V12s are made by one individual from start to finish. They also still need to make V12s for multiple others cars: 812C, 812GTS, etc.
The only way they can produce that many PS is to have a separate hybrid powertrain taken from 296 or SF90...but 296 more likely.

 

what's the actual benefit to the Purosangue though, higher ride height for better visibility and some additional room in the back / boot?

 

Also it will be much easier to get in the back seats. That's a huge improvement in practicality when taking kids to school / traveling with elderly members of the family.

 

812 has been discontinued，only 812C 812CA SP3，

LAF Successor is said to be a V8 hybrid

 

They are making 812GTS for another 1-2 years.

 

so there will be cheaper version of Purosangue like Lusso Turbo?

 

My friend Rossano, personal friend of Enzo Ferrari, told the real story: Enzo Ferrari didn't like it and said no. Then Rossano purchased the car prototype and made it working with Mauro Forghieri as a consultant. At Maranellocollection shop in Maranello you can buy a picture of that car in front of Maranello Factory historic gate.

FERRARI "Pinin" by Rossano Candrini and Mauro Forghieri, a very nice four door sedan designed by Pininfarina. Sold at 900 k euro not many years ago.

Ciao

 

How many cars have you bought from them? Just curious. I can see you own one now and my wife was supposed to inquire about our Portofino M order yesterday when she picked up her Porto from service but she was in a hurry and didn't get to ask that or about the PS.

 

I think the main problem here is that Ferrari marketing was 100% right when they said that PS is not a SUV. Its a Lusso++. I think the the fundamental misstep was that they wanted to not associate this model with 4 seater Ferraris of the past which all have poor sales and bad value retention and in trying to do so they stepped into the SUV moniker unwittingly. This car will not have 5 seats in the back, it does not have the high seating position of a SUV and it does not have the enormous boot of a SUV. It does not even have an off-road mode on the Manettino!
The thing I am most surprised about is that it still retains the FF/GTC4 front wheel gearbox. What I am really wondering is why was this vehicles delayed by 3 years. The only plausible reason for the delay to me was to move to a Hybrid architecture with the SF90S 4-wheel drive but this has none of it. Its literally the same engine and drivetrain with a new body on top and a natural evolution of the chassis.
The only reason why the press is jumping on the whole SUV thing is because it creates controversy and leads to clicks.

 

It has the FF/Lusso front gearbox, maybe improved, but very similar. This car is a much better looking and raised Lusso, basically.

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And this is a weekly excursion since the FF is our DD.

 

thats awesome

 

Getting close to a 'bus' then!

 

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A 42 years old Ferrari four doors sedan: Ferrari Pinin by Pininfarina, a 1980 show car.

Picture ©: former owner R.C. from Modena, Italy.

I have to say that the Purosangue looks even better: it looks more Ferrari than this one, imho.

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But it is not classified as a SUV! So there is no obligation to put in a 5th seat. I don't have kids, so I like the 4-seats version and prefer this to a flat-back back seat.

 

Aren't they able to add techs to motor building?

Ball park estimate one person builds 2 motors per day so 10 a week. Let's say they work 40 weeks a year (nice life) so 400 superb V12s per FTE
Only 5 folks to get you 2000 motors a year
Pick your annual output and train new staff accordingly

 

Even if 100% of V12 production was dedicated to the FUV, based on Ferrari's annual reports, 2,200 is the most produced in a single year...so, 5 years, 2,200 = 11,000 not 15,000 ...The V12 is handmade, and did Ferrari retain the engine builders that it did not need (i.e. recent production was much less than 2,200/year).

But, there are SP3s, 812c/812cA and F167 to build on that same V12 line (and remaining 812GTS)...and possibly SP4/SP5 will use the V12...

Unless they use another engine, the output of 15,000 for 5 years does not appear possible.

 

Or they just adjust what "hand built" means. I have no doubt that if Ferrari wants 15K engines, they'll get them.

 

Details are in the Annual Reports, for 2021, (8) V12s were built per day...not by one person, but by the entire crew, it takes much longer than 1 day to build a single V12 engine...

 

Don't say it loud! Ferrari can take it as another opportunity to expand their portfolio
And of course they won't call it a BUS. FUS?