Stock Cayenne has been very capable and confidence inspiring the times we have had it off road. Nothing as extreme as in the link, mostly 3- and 4-digit county roads for those who know Texas. Off-road capability was not in the brief for the PS, which is a shame in my own opinion, but I am sure F knows what their prospective PS customers want and I am guessing rally car racing in a half-million dollar lifted sedan is not high on many of their priority lists...T
Well said! I too, don’t know what the off road capabilities are for the PS, but folks are acting as if this car will melt the moment it hits a spec of mud. Do I expect folks will take this to Dakar? no, but a camping trip? Jaunt for skiing? On sandy beaches? why not? I certainly wouldn’t bring a 296 on any of the aforementioned activities. the big difference being you can probably blow off the doors of 99% of the cars to/from the destination. It’s an altogether different argument on what a car *can* do and what a owner *will* do, btw I’ve seen a black FF my last two trips to Tahoe. Do folks forget most of the trip is to and from? most Monza owners probably have their cars hermetically sealed, doesn’t mean you can’t track it.
Sorry for bad link, here ya go. Purists shield your eyes, though you can lie to yourself and say this is synthetic media. but we all know the critics here are rally drivers on Saturday and track rats on Sunday, hence they are well used to ‘purity’. I get it. Funny, when I’ve asked what cars they are going off road with and hitting the track, it gets mighty quiet. cars and coffee more like it.
It’s damn if you do, damn if you don’t right? Wringers say these cars can’t handle off road, so they are poo, dude takes said car to Moab, same fanbois will immediately say, I rather take a different car. can’t please em all, I just point out there is one variable that doesn’t change with both critiques, illuminating to say the least.
I agree the acceleration numbers are taken on a straight and just give us an idea of how fast a car is in these conditions. In a circuit and on the road, in addition to the straights, there are also curves and I think it will be in the later that the Purosangue will differentiate itself for the better from the Urus and the DBX 707.
Not going to Multi quote. Not a hypocrite or poser Paul. I don't street my GT3 RS. F250 to haul & hunt (1/2 of my wife's DD) Jeep Wrangler for the beach (other half of my wife's DD) I now work from home Q8 is what I fart around in (even once had to chunk a deer carcass in the back driving home from my ranch) Never attended a cars and coffee. ps my wife's fun car is a C8 convertible ========================================================================================================== Performance numbers, for all practical purposes are similar, and frankly irrelevant. (Remember hyperbole/poetic license). Ferrari owners really just don't give a **** nor do they buy a car because of nor quote them. Leave them to the micro phallic one/only exotic Porsche/McLaren/Lambo masters of their domain. Regardless, those who will be offered a PS already have the more appropriate sports car(s) anyway. And these are SUV/crossovers for chrissakes! Kudos though to all these high end/bespoke/low number mfg (see above re: BMW/Audi) for what they've done to enter into this market segment. Each of them (looks notwithstanding) has truly remained true to their heritage in their design elements ====================================================================================================== This will get really interesting once the (non V12) PS will become available for the rest of the Ferrari clientele. The V12s were specifically made for a select group of clients. The other iterations will become available for the rest of us Ferrari owners. I don't know this as fact, nor was I told this, but from what I gathered during my visit a few days ago, the implication was that Ferrari believes demand is so high that the PS will be more than sold out to just it's own clients. IMO I suspect any V8/V6 +/- hybrid will also be exclusive to Ferrari owners and that if there is one of the PS iterations that will become available for the non Ferrari owner, if any, it will be the electric version. Furthermore, the PS was not built to enter into and to compete for market share in the sports/luxocruiser/SUV/crossover market (in the classical business sense), but rather Ferrari saw an opportunity to make a car for its own clients who had to go elsewhere because this vehicle type simply wasn't offered by Ferrari. Again, as per the V12, as I understand it, the books won't be truly "open" in that Maranello will ultimately say yes or no as to whom gets the later versions. Similarly, as this new model cycle has now begun (though "LE" first), lists are now being made for said approval. Now if it was only more 812ish...............
Agreed. I, too, was asked for additional money for mine. I was also told Ferrari asked the dealer to no longer accept new deposits, because there are now too many…
I’m buying a PS because I love the brand and I want to share it with my wife/kids. It’s a proper four door so it’ll allow people to be more inclusive with their families and I think that’s a major thing. I bought a lusso in part for the back seats because it seemed unfair to my boys these cars were only my thing or rarely something they could enjoy, but it’s still a pain in the ass to get them in/out of a two door coupe/shooting brake. The PS changes that and the fam will get to experience the sounds, acceleration, cornering, etc and hopefully they’ll embrace the brand as they grow up so that it can continue to future generations. I don’t see a downside to these things being used as primary family cars. They aren’t replacing other things in the Ferrari lineup… they’re enhancing and expanding the ownership experience and I applaud it.
When we look at these side-by-side views it becomes more evident that the Purosangue is not an SUV but an evolution of the Lusso. The length of the Lusso is very similar to that of the Purosangue, the difference being only 51 mm (2 inches). The Purosangue compared to the Urus Performante and the DBX 707 is slightly shorter in length and also in height. IMO these side views demonstrate, that at least from this angle, the lines of the Purosangue are more sophisticated and harmonious than those of the Urus and the DBX. Image Unavailable, Please Login
I gotta say, when I scrolled down and got to the pic of the DBX, I almost let out a chuckle cuz, WTF is that BLOB.... Oh, forgot to add that to my eyes, the PS is even better looking and proportioned than the Lusso.
The Lusso is a stunning design, sort of like the M Coupe on steroids. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
One of the rare modern cars that looks utterly beautiful on photos. I think Ferrari red is not the best color for this car, but some special (darker) red with pearl effect could make wonders to this car. Image Unavailable, Please Login
This is the result when the Lusso is superimposed on the Purosangue's side profile. Image Unavailable, Please Login
Thanks for this. The Lusso’s bonnet looks longer, and I think you see more engine v purosangue when you open the hood. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
