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The Purosangue Thread

Discussion in 'Purosangue' started by MDEL, Dec 6, 2017.

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  1. Scudmsl

    Scudmsl Formula Junior

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    Confirmed as well. They are trying to weed out the “uncommitted” due to higher than anticipated demand.
     
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  2. Moopz

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    Send him a PM! Maybe he will change his mind...

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  3. Bundy

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    Crazy to think that “15 Ferraris all same dealer” doesn’t gain one legitimate cache in Ferrari Land…
     
  4. U-Boat Commander

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    It does. You just won't be a Top without owning a hypercar or Icona or possibly doing Challenge.
     
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  5. U-Boat Commander

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    This is silliness. I am a lowly VIP, I was invited to Italy but did not go and I ordered the car months ago.
     
  6. Ferrari 308 GTB

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    I know my place;)
     
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  7. MDEL

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    The new suspension system of the Purosangue seems to be revolutionary and therefore I look forward to the evaluations of those who will test the car in the near future. Meanwhile, I put here some information about the Multimatic suspension system that equips the Purosangue.

    The Multimatic TASV system equipping the Purosangue is the first production active suspension in the world to integrate an electric motor with spool valve damping. The high-power density, three-phase brushless electric motor was co-developed for this application by Ferrari . The advantages of this type of suspension are the following:


    1 It eliminates the need for any anti-roll devices and additional mechanisms for dynamic ride height and rate adjustment.

    2 It can also control the wheel motions with more authority and at higher frequencies than adaptive or semi-active suspension systems.
    This makes the steering wheel less sensitive to road irregularities and braking.

    3 The active suspension system uses accelerometers and position sensors on each suspension corner and interfaces with the Side Slip Con.
    Ferrari’s proprietary control logic, together with the TASV dampers supplied by Multimatic, electronically manages every performance
    element of the fully active suspension system.

    4 This technology optimises maximum cornering performance thanks to the variable and continual distribution of roll stiffness and the
    actively lowered roll centre (reduced by up to 10mm), to the benefit of the side force acting on the tyres and the balance between over and
    understeer.

    5 The high-frequency control regulates both body motion and wheel movement, thus reducing roll and pitch as well as absorbing road
    surface irregularities.


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  8. JackCongo

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    Does anyone knows if the All Wheel Steering system also allows to improve the steering angle at low speed (like on the latest Audi RS6 or Porsche Cayenne), thus making maneuvering easier in tight areas?
     
  9. Caeruleus11

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    The suspension system seems very very impressive. Might we see this on other Ferrari models in the future?

    My guess on the rear steer is it could be utilized to improve low speed maneuverability. Whats wild is its a similar setup to the 812 C- so the rear wheels can be moved independent of each other. In theory they can create toe in, neutral toe, toe out, situations, and vary them independently. If done with nuance and precision, I think they could give you more agility on turn in, a mix of agility and stability in mid corner, and then some more stability on track out. Im sure the purists would cringe, but I think if this is done very well, it could make the vehicle very enjoyable to drive on the road.


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  10. Moopz

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    My Lusso has the same system. The wheelbase is literally 12 inches shorter than my Yukon XL (130" vs. 118") and it is supremely maneuverable for that length. Low speed and high speed you can tell that it's working.
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  11. gilly6993

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    Does it have a PTU?


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  12. MisterMaranello

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    This is incorrect. I have been offered to place "an order" by my dealer, but he says the final allocation of cars is based on client status. So anyone can try to get a car, but the lower your standing in the client CRM system, the lesser the possibility of you getting an allocation. I have four cars in my name, so by no means anything close to VIP. Considering if it´s worth a shot trying to order a car, which I will sell on to someone in my circle who wants one with zero Ferrari history. If I get an allocation, I will let the forum know.
     
  13. Gh21631

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    My understanding is that orders haven't been placed, only deposits towards orders. At least this is what my dealer is telling me. I believe FNA or Ferrari will determine the order by priority in which they will be released.
     
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  14. jumpinjohn

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    Well my dealer says I am special. ;)

    I do love the Ferraris but if I can’t get one, perhaps I will just order a Pagani!

    :)


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  15. Moopz

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    Yes

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  16. Im not drinking the Ferrari Kool-Aid.

    If it was so revolutionary, why not introduce it on one of their mid-engine models like the 296 or SF90.
     
  17. MDEL

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    We have again the profile view of the Purosangue side by side with the DBX 707 and with the Urus Perfomante. In aesthetic terms IMO we are dealing with three very different cars. The Urus seems to me to be one of those cars that you either love or hate and it's hard to find a middle ground. As I belong to the group of those who do not identify with the aesthetics of this Lamborghini, with all due respect I can only say that I find it ugly and overly big. As for the DBX when looking at its profile view what I see is another SUV similar to many others.
    If there is something that this comparison allows, it is to see that Purosangue in terms of design and lines is in a completely separate category.


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  18. REALZEUS

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    If anything, a taller, larger car, is in more need of such technology. We will find out if they use it on future sportscars too.
     
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  19. Gh21631

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    A big appeal of the Urus for me is its size. Its large enough to carry 4 or 5 people and plenty of luggage or golf clubs while still remaining agile and sporty. There is no point in having a larger vehicle like this if you cant fit people or stuff in it.
     
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  20. Moopz

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    Yeah, PS not even a small leap over my Lusso for utility. Having a hard time justifying it outside of shiny newness.

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  21. Don’t forget the revolutionary suspension
     
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  22. Gh21631

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    I'm looking forward to seeing one in person, I don't need Suburban type space but certainly needs to have some utility.
     
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  23. Gh21631

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    Suspension looks interesting
     
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  24. footsoldier

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    Urus (being an Audi..) is also proper 4WD. It’s a real SUV, PS is obviously more of a crossover.
    Ironically the Urus Performante is moving to simple steel dampers for a better response. Manthey do the same with Porsche GT cars.
    I’m sure PS will handle brilliantly and disguise its weight, but will you feel connected to it? Does that matter for most? We’ll find out soon
     
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  25. inox

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    These comparison pics clearly display difference between FUV and SUV. FUV is elegant and SUV is just... an ordinary, massive SUV.

    Purosangue interior is so rear biased and sides so waisted that I doubt normal rear door arrangement could have been even possible/functional. It is nice too see such a different approach.
     
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