Sourcing missing items/ Cassiche certification

1 - ebay regular (eg item number:204108851924) or other documentation specialists - a hundred bucks - probable book ref 307/84 - you might also enjoy looking out for the sales & service book 337/85 - note I think there is not a dedicated MY85 owners book
2 - a thousand bucks
3 - ten thousand bucks
4 - go read other threads then decide if another ten thousand bucks is worth it to you

All values approximate guesstimates to give orders of magnitude

 

1 - correct, maybe two hundreds but it's not impossible to find . This is a must have item.

2 - correct, but pay attention as there are many fake tool rolls. It's not a must have item, and there are fir sale perfect replica tool roll bags - empty- that you can fill with cheap similar to the originals tools

3- seven or eight thousands are enough, shipping included (I can sell it...). This is a very good idea to increase your car value.

4 - if you own an average car, you can save the money. If you have an outstanding conditions car, maybe it worth the money, even if they pushed the price at very high levels so today it costs something about 7 or 8 k, three times than ten years ago. When you have to sell your car, the red book is always welcome, saw with my eyes but actual price is very high, maybe too much.

Ciao

 

All this but the luggage isn’t going to make a difference for Classiche, it was an optional extra and not part of the car when sold new..
I would hazard to guess that maybe 5% of owners of these cars have the luggage set..
I cant see it adding the same value as you would pay for it to your car..
If the Luggage set is going to cost you $10K, I doubt very much that your car automatically is worth $10K more,,

As we all know, the original tool kit is just about useless but is one of the things that people want to see when purchasing a car,, half of it for the originality aspect as it did come with the car, the other half becomes buyers may think if the seller lost the books/toolkit to their car, then does this show any neglect on the way they have kept the car,, its petty I know but I guess that’s how some people think..

I can’t see an increase in value on your car if you get the Classiche certificate,, at least not by the amount that Ferrari are charging these days..

 

I inquired with my dealer about Classiche certification, and the way they get you is that the service itself is about 5k from Ferrari, but then the dealer additionally charges you that much for their inspection/report compiling time. I honestly don’t believe 308s are rare or valuable enough that an official certification of authenticity will materially change the market price of a collector-quality car. HOWEVER, Ferrari is starting to offer classic rally “lifestyle” events and travel to clients who have Classiche certified vehicles. So if you want to go drive your own car in a European historic pleasure cruise organized by corporate, get the certification. If not, just maintain your car to the highest level you can, and enjoy driving it/showing it.

PS Im sure you’re aware, but dealer options like luggage, etc are NOT counted toward or against Concours judging or originality certification. And on the subject of judging, you just need a period correct set of owners manuals/docs. You don’t need the original warranty card that came with your specific chassis. I’d recommend filling in the missing pieces of your documents and tool kit, as those will only get more expensive over time.

 

Most of this stuff is "because you WANT it," not because it adds value on resale. There is nothing wrong with buying something because you want to have it, just don't expect someone else to put that value on it. If I was looking for a 3x8, a luggage set would be totally meaningless to me as far as "added value." I have no use for it at all. OTOH another person might feel totally the opposite.

It's a bit like colors. If you have an "odd" color, it might be worth a lot to someone who wants that color but it's not desirable to the majority of buyers, who don't.

 

I can comment on Classiche. Just completed the Red book in November 2020 with Ferr of Newport Beach. Paid the dealer 3k (inspection & record taking fees) and indirectly through the dealer from Maranello charges another 6k (Mr. P. Ferrari signs the red book). So 9k total for 2020 price. I heard the dealer raised the price after I signed the contract. They showed me a list, the more expensive car the higher the fees. I have a 85 QV GTS, rare Prugna/creama color. Copa Bella Macchina, platinum winners and this year La Jolla best in class 1976-1995 (F50 second, BBi512 third). I heard Classiche red book was $3k when they started that program. You don't need the luggages but they're nice to look at. They're getting rarer than hens teeth and approaching 10k.

 

Totally agree.

I would say it would be very rare for anyone to use the fitted luggage, the tool kit, or the jack (and the inspection lamp whilst we're about it), these days.

It's nice if they're there - But it's not the end of the World if they're not.

 

The "problem" with Classiche adding value is its a 308 QV.

Now, that's what I own and have always loved so I'm not knocking the car. It's just a red/tan 85 QV with 42K will only bring so much anyway so a Classiche Certification isn't going to add $25,000 something to the value of the car. I would only invest in it if I wanted to keep the car and just make it as complete as possible just for conversation.

Same for the luggage.

 

https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/308-qv-manual-set-pouch-warranty-card-window-sticker.666037/#post-148793585

 

Luggage was always an option and at this point would be hard to find without the aging flaking inside.


I owned it, never used it, and sold it on..