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Manual F430 gear oil

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  1. PGH

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    I know several people have posted about this but I’m looking for a little more specific help. I changed my gear oil about 150 miles ago with Redline NS and I have chatter at slow speed turns until car is driven a few miles and then it’s gone. Shift are great! Is this damaging to the trans/diff? Do I add modifiers, if so how much? Do I need to put more miles before doing anything? I’m not opposed to changing the oil again if this is causing any damage. Please let me know what you all suggest. Thank you


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  2. PGH

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    Sorry, forgot to mention it’s Redline 75w/90 NS



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  3. wmuno

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    I have a vintage V-12 with a transaxle. Several years ago I switched to synthetic LubroMoly GL5 SAE 75W-90 Gear Oil. I have had very good result with this gear oil, especially the 1 to 2 shift when the oil is still cold. Prior to the switch, I would have to shift from 1 to 3 before the oil warmed up.
     
  4. flash32

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    Add modifier 1 oz at time until noise goes away
     
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  5. Ferrari Tech

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    I just had a client with a similar issue. It was suspected the EDiff had an issue as he could not get the diff to be quiet. I disassembled it and found the clutch plates were dry of oil. As I removed the first floater plate, I could see the oil migrate across the disc. I cleaned it and soaked the discs in gear oil. I reassembled it and had no issues. I am told this car sat for sometime and this could account for the lack of gear oil on the disc. It could also be the trick oils they used trying to make it all better. I use Mobile One 75/90 LS. I haven't had any issues.
     
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  6. flash32

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    I should have noted.. after adding do a few figure 8s backward and forward in a parking lot to get fluid into diff plates

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  7. PGH

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    Thank you all for the post, I’ll have to get a new crush washer and add modifier.
     
  8. RayJohns

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    I've had good luck running Motul 300 gear oil.

    Limited slip differentials often require some level of friction modifier, otherwise they tend to operate like a spool or locked differential. I've had cases where I had to do just what Flash32 recommended, where you just have to keep adding 1 oz of modifier at a time until the chatter subsides.

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  9. windsock

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    We see this a lot and this is our go to stuff. One bottle will sort it out. Works great for the conventional differentials as well. Chatter is the biggest reason we went to the Shell 1099 fluid.

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  10. flash32

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    The GM one works well too

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  11. PGH

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    I’m going to change the oil motul 300 (I think), it comes suggested from several mechanics. I’ll let you all know how it works. I hear the balance of adding FM can be a challenge.
     
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    If you are going to change oil consider Ravenol vsg

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  13. PGH

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    The problem is I can only find royal purple, Mobil 1 and Valvoline at the local shops. If I pay a mechanic they have motul. All are full synthetic and I will change every year so I’m not sure the difference in all of them. I just want the chatter gone and my car is a manual transmission, I’d like smooth shifts. As long as they have FM should they work?
     
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    Order the Vsg .. you will be happy

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    This answered the OPs question about his limited slip differential noise how?
     
  16. RayJohns

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    I've been running Motul 300 with excellent results. I've also used their 300V (I believe it is) in my street bikes and shifting is silky smooth.

    Go slow when adding friction modifier and give it some time to work its way around things. It's easy to add more, but there's no way to remove any once it's in there (even completely draining the gearbox or differential will leave some residue on the walls of the case, etc.).

    Check the Motul website for specifics and make sure you start off with the correct product. Their website (and their technical support over the phone) are both top notch.

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  17. RayJohns

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    Motul 300 is what you want...

    Valvoline is also top notch in my experience.

    Some of the Motul products are also double ester based as I recall. You might want to research all that. The motul 300 is a very good gear oil and sticks to everything. It's a trip.

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  18. PGH

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    Thanks Ray. I’m going to put Motul in the car today. I’ll let you know how it goes!
     
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    I did exactly this, with this oil. Took 2oz on my car.


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    Better lubrication of the LS differential clutches. Modern synthetic gear oils are designed to work well with LSDs.
     
  21. rkrkrk

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    Resurrecting this old thread as I'm trying to find a good gear oil. Btw, the gear oil and rear diff oil is all the same in these cars, right?

    Are y'all finding that with Ravenol VSG and Motul 300, no chatter even without friction modifiers?
     

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