F355 Market

i mean the car has oem valves and headers right? that's $40K if both need to be addressed.

 

And will need belts sooner rather than later...

$160k is good money given those items.

 

imo when a car goes on bat and does not sell not good for resale.gonna be poss difficult for seller to get more than high bid

 

it looks like a nice enough car...selling a 355 without valves and headers addressed is a futile effort if you ask me.

 

I’m thinking “good” and in “maybe sellers will stop
flooding the market with these cars looking for big $ which, ultimately, is what really dictates prices.”
Supply and demand, you know. There was a flood of 348s this spring to summer. Prices started high and dropped. You gotta let up.

 

Based on the 355 that sold a while back where all that and more had been done I'd say more like 25k. Headers? I wouldn't assume it needs headers and 19k.

Honestly, I expected this car would be in the $180k range. But last bid was 3 days ago. People walked away early.

 

it was a very nice one love 355 in yellow especially with a challenge grill

 

thats a complete joke man! Really, now every single 355 needs to have headers and valves done to sell all of a sudden? thats about ludicrous, the car had great compression numbers, engine was healthy. The Euro spec car sold for $164k , highest sale for a GTB on BaT so no need to make up stories and theories about this one. This was a solid number IMO, not sure what everyone is making a fuss about...its a GTB not a GTS

 

You are animated, i am not. Valves and headers are real on 95s. Same as dct and ptu on ff and headers/f1 actuator on a 430. It is what it is.

 

Of course they are of concern, but you cant just assume every single pre 98' 355 needs them, there are signs, and there are way to inspect and check for the health of the engine and headers and allegedly they did this on this car and it was fine...Next were gonna hear "hey the engine wasnt' rebuilt, you can't sell a 355 without a complete engine rebuild"

i'm sure some of the 355 GTB's sold on BaT had valves and headers done, and still the highest sale $164K which this one was in the same range.

 

Yes there was nothing remarkable about the auction was my point, apologies if i wasn’t clear. There haven’t been any low mile, no story, good/unique color, ultra clean 95 gtb with valves and headers addressed on bat that I recall.

 

The fuss is that GTBs are better

 

I would pay a premium for a '95 GTB over a GTS

EVERYTIME.

This is just like how the Spiders used to be the most expensive.

 

Totally agree. The Berlinetta is much stiffer and the drivers car. And we all know stiffer is better.
Now if you’re more interested in sunning yourself for that golden tan, GTS.

 

Well sure, if you're Michael Schumacher trying to shave a millisecond off your lap time maybe the "stiffer" chassis is better...my personal GTS doesn't squeak or rattle and is basically a GTB with the factory painted top on.

Either way it doesn't matter what you or I think, the "Market" premium on a GTS is a fact over a GTB , not saying BaT is all the market but since so many use it as a main metric lately, highest selling GTS on there was over $300K, highest selling GTB a Euro 96'' for $164k

 

I was just joking. Better is all subjective. F1 is better too if you have the skill to drive it. Most don’t…

 

And the pocket book to keep the F1 in tune.[emoji14]
It is super cool though.

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It’s really not a complicated system and doesn’t cost that much to put right and keep there. As stated in the past, it’s all down to the right mechanic. The stick is certainly easier and no cost, but God the 1st generation F1 is special if you understand how to operate it.

I need to make a video showing F1 rev-matching, throttle blips, and redline shifts. I’ll work on it soon.

 

Just playing devil's advocate here, but most of the peanut gallery might not have been aware of the fact the rear quarter, door, and front fenders were repainted on the passenger side. Potential buyers would have been attentative to that detail.

 

Another Euro B brought over in Oct 2022. See how this one goes.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1997-ferrari-f355-berlinetta-2/

 

True, and I wouldn't expect every pre 98 F355 to need them either.

Thought mine would be good. Great dyno numbers, no oil consumption, ran very nice at the dragstrip.

But recently took it apart and....

Headers melted, one tube perforated. Guides- TOAST. Like baseball bat in a bucket toast. LMAO

 

You posting pics of all this?

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^ Haha, sure I'll get there. Forgot to mention one cylinder head looked like it was ported by an ace (similar to the spare 5.2 head I bought).

The other one ported by a blind amateur? Very bizarre.

 

One thing I will say for the 911 engine is that when the valve guides are gone, you know it, and in more ways than one. 355 seems inscrutable.

 

Totally true. As a new 355 owner I as overly obsessed with the valve guide issue. Mine has no record of it ever being done, nor has it ever show any signs of it needing to be done

Of course I spent hours, days and months reading about it, worrying about it and being totally obsessed by the "issue".

I asked my local Ferrari Dealership's service department about this. The service manager, who I personally have known for almost 20 years told me about the valve guide issue straight up..

He told me that he hears about it all the time, not only from 355 owners but all Ferrari owners, but the reality is that he has only ever had to address 2 engine rebuilds in a 355 and neither were for valve guides. One was for a cracked piston, the other for crank wear due to failed big end bearings That's just in his experience, not in all cases of course. He has never personally seen any valve guides fail.

Might just be that all Australian delivered 355's are good maybe? Who knows. I'm not saying the issue doesn't exist and that people haven't suffered from it because it's certainly well documented - but from what I understand it is seriously blown out of proportion to the point of irrational obsession.

We can talk about the very common issue of failing radiators in 355's.. Very common.. Or failing alternators, even more common... Or headers, in which case they pretty much all fail.

Anyway.... this is something that's probably going to plague the 355 until the end of time.