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Discussion in '456/550/575' started by toggie, Oct 10, 2012.

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  1. yudkib

    yudkib Formula Junior

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    That’s right around where Ron Tonkin’s Azurro California sold for, so I used that as a comp
     
  2. Aerosurfer

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    Way over my guess of around 130k
     
  3. jhott66

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    I just looked at this car. They want the car sold but it has A LOT going on. Starting with headlights that will not "pop" up, a trunk that will not close, door latches broken, needs complete respray (the car was wrapped red and thPO did a horrible job removing it. pulled up clear coat all over the place), gas filler flap will not open, and front hood does not close completely. This is just the beginning of all the issues including pulled up leather all over the dashboard. I'm thinking another $25,000+ to get the car working, plus bodywork. Currently it is not "road worthy" and will not pass Pennsylvania mandated safety inspection. Nice exterior color though. The dealer is open about the car and not trying to hide anything.
     
  4. Aerosurfer

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    Now that you mention it, There was a guy on the 456 FB page who wrapped his car in red that i think was the same color. I believe it was down in Richmond/norfolk area before. Wonder if its the same GTA. Millennial type posting on there
     
  5. Ferrari55whoa

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    Sounds like a nightmare.
     
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    #1481 Mirek, Oct 27, 2022
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    What a nightmare, it’s $59,750 now but it DOES sound like a new battery might solve a lot of those issues (things closing and/or not opening). That said, $25k in recommissioning would be lucky, I am $40k into mine (repair/maintenance/upgrades) and my starting baseline was a 19k mile 2003M in “like new” condition.

    NOW it IS in “Like new” condition and it won’t be back on the market !
     
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  7. Mirek

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    I actually saw a nice Barchetta Rosso GTA pop up for sale a few days back for a similar price ($65k maybe) but alas, it is gone now.
     
  8. yudkib

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    There is no way this can get addressed for $25k. $50k from a mid-tier shop with not a lot of work to do, $75k from someone qualified, assuming it goes well.
     
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  9. yudkib

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    That’s still in the FChat classifieds. If I wanted a GTA the search would be over. It’s a ‘97 too, which is not an insignificant premium over a ‘95.
     
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    Boston GTA.... black tan 36k miles... Will see if I can trade my Mondi hehe

    Anyone seen this 97 in Waltham?

    ZFFWP50A8V0106295
     
  11. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    yudkib- There were no US 456 GTAs prior to MY 97 and no US MY 96 456s at all.
     
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  12. yudkib

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    I knew there were no '96 GT's or GTA's because that was the changeover year for OBD. I didn't realize there were no GTA's in '95. Thanks!
     
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    I see dirty carpets, lifting leather above the airbag (which nearly all have) and a scuff on the steering wheel airbag. What serious sorting are you talking about?
     
  18. yudkib

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    Needs a full redye in my opinion. I’m guessing a headliner and door card restretch too if the seats are that faded.
     
  19. Mirek

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    Wow. Looks like a steal to me, maybe my favorite looking color on the 456.
     
  20. yudkib

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    Great color no doubt. I was thinking about the RC/tan I bid on during a different personal climate (RNM at about 74k after fees). The big difference is obviously exterior color, but the RC was decently sorted out mechanically as I recall, aside from tires. This one has not even a registration on the carfax in 2.5 years so I would strongly suspect there’s mechanical work needed here. I also thought 456’s only came with black valve covers? I dunno, this just has my senses tingling, and it’s not offered at much of a “project” discount. 90-95% sorted cars with similar quality color pairings and mileage we’re going for $90k at the peak of the market. $80k isn’t highway robbery at all, really comes down to “what does it need”. If everything else is up to date it’s a serviceable price for the color.

    I can’t tell if I’m trying to talk myself into or out of it at this point.

    I do think as the broader market continues to cool off we will have cars that the asking price actually look like a steal, compared to ones where it’s just refreshing to see an asking price that’s realistically close to a sales price.
     
  21. Mirek

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    Yeah, you figure if a 2003 basically needs EVERYTHING then a 1995 could break you in-half if you don’t know what it all needs going in.

    Given the widely agreed upon assumption that these are under-valued, I broadly think about the overall expense/cost in terms of:
    A) general cost of acquisition of the car 65%
    B) recommissioning and repair 35%

    At the end of the day you are bringing a 1/4 million dollar car up to spec for a steal.
     
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  22. Pawilly

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    Here's an interesting specimen: https://ferrariphiladelphia.com/showroom/inventory/ Opinions? Knowing that 456 side windows remaining in their tracks can be problematical, the Carfax shows this one having "glass checked" multiple times early in its ownership history, while the site photos show the windows only in the down position on both sides. The last owner had her for a long time and looks to have been pretty on top of maintenance. The car looks very nice inside and out, which it should at $155K asking.
     
  23. yudkib

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    Beautiful car. If it's really classiche that's a slightly ambitious ask but market value probably falls within the negotiating window. I'm not sure how they would get certified with that radio unless radios are outside the scope of classiche.
     
  24. Mirek

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    #1500 Mirek, Nov 22, 2022
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    Glad to see a “classiche” 456 finally but yeah what’s up with that radio (?!)
    I almost went that route but there are so many obvious improvements one can make to the 456 (cooling, fuel system) that it makes it almost detrimental to long term ownership (me). The dealer body is not too familiar with it and be aware that classiche will replace GOOD gastets with gaskets that are known to fail over time so as to keep the vehicle “as built” and correct. This is a point of pride for them and there is a value to that for a certain market.

    Factor those things in as well as the fact that ZERO techs have been trained on any 456 for the last 20+ years. It’s like a parts changing cash grab (in some respects) unless you have an investment worthy Ferrari. The new vehicle training requirements (especially today) for dealer techs and Managers is super intense. Super intense. Even Knowing a 456 could be a huge negative and waste of capacity (and a lift) in todays dealer universe.
     

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