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LaFerrari replacement: v12, no hybrid, less power than SF90stradale?

Discussion in '288GTO/F40/F50/Enzo/LaFerrari/F80' started by Ale55andr0, Dec 24, 2019.

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  1. jpalmito

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    Logical
     
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  2. Johnny_Bravo

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    It can be hyper with a NA V12 or V10, not a garbage TT V6
     
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  3. kandi

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    A track monster? The XX version will be targeting those demands.
    Personally, I think Ferrari needs a bold and beautiful design. Then, no matter the engine config, it will be loved by anyone aged 3 to 103 :D

    As always ... very enthusiastically :D
     
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  4. day355

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    What is the real interest of this car nowadays?
    They have no place on the road (and I include the Valkyrie) and are far too expensive, so no one will risk track days with them...
    These two elements combined mean that they no longer have a reason to exist today.
    It doesn't matter what your technology is, they no longer need it to sell !
    At the time of an F 50/Enzo, you could still have fun on the road and the price remained consistent.
    What are you doing today ???
    Nothing, direct fridge after a few palace hotel entries...
     
  5. kandi

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    Surely, I can understand your point as far as I can,
    But why do you want to stop Ferrari from building the next 'dream car'?

    A dream car (hypercar) is exactly what people want from Ferrari the most!

    Just my $0.02.
     
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  6. day355

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    I'm not preventing anything, but precisely, in my eyes, it's not a dream car !
     
  7. kandi

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    I'm also being sceptical about the next Ferrari hypercar, which might tick some, but not necessarily all 'dream car' boxes to me.
    But I wonder how will Ferrari make it. It will be another sign of the changing world around us.
    (Lately Ferrari made a FUV/SUV, and so on ...)

    I do not expect the F250 to be the greatest of the Ferrari hypercars to this day, but in Ferrari plan - it is the next 'top' car to determine and underline their new technological turning point. (All production hybrids will also get at best a V6 etc) It will also be the last hybrid hypercar before going all electric.

    Time is constantly going forward, and we know from our experience, that sometimes 'better things' already happened a long ago.
     
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    Wrong. If it's not a NA V10 or V12, it will suck.
     
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  9. day355

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    We agree !!!
    I'm not worried about the sale of this new hypercar, people don't buy it to drive anyway...it's moreover the paroxysm of such a system, if we take into account a time not so the owners were very active in the clubs and on the track with it!
    Today, it's a financial investment, nothing more, except that this time, it's really not to my taste
    and it reflects the Ferrari of today, for those who like...
    And if I had the possibility, I much prefer an SP3 well configured to do a tour of Europe, than this car which has no use...
    I remain primary, but for me, a Ferrari is intended to drive, not to put in a window
     
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  10. jpalmito

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    Difficult to argue against this ..
    Fact is nothing will surpass a NA V12 !
     
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    Now that the Le Mans Hypercar has been revealed, what technologies do you think will trickle down to the LaFerrari successor (and eventually other road cars)? My guess is the 900 volt battery system.
     
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    Yes, that's almost a certainty. Hope it will be a N/A V12 though, but I am afraid it won't be...
     
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    I heard it would be EV not sure what that fully means we shall see
     
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    Could the future of racing be formule E? In which case them showcasing the future technology that will appeal to the young audience could make sense…
     
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    Formula E the future of racing ?
    Like saying cheeseburger is the future of gastronomy to my eyes :D:D
     
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    Not saying i agree with it…but times change and young people’s interests are rapidly evolving malheureusement…speaking of cheeseburgers i’m sure some people prefer it to our beloved french gastronomy! Haha
     
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    Funny !
    Lol
    Same comparison I would say.
    I don’t dislike a cheeseburger from time to time but nothing to compare with gastronomy.
    Same for engines;):D
     
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    The first Ferrari BEV will be introduced in 2025 and it won't be the hypercar.


    They have said it time and again that Formula E is not enticing. That's why major manufacturers are pulling out of it. That is also the reason that the new F1 regulations (2026) include an ICE.
     
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    Excuse my ignorance but what is the difference or benefit of this 900V battery system compared to the ones on the market now?
     
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    Less thermal losses, lighter wiring, quicker charge and discharge (flow of power). Porsche is proud of their 800V architecture, in the Taycan, for the same reasons.
     
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    900v capable already exists (Lucid Air), biggest difference is how fast you can charge..if the power is available, which it never will be, would take decades or more to build out a new electric grid to support as many 900v chargers as gas pumps..

    https://www.forbes.com/wheels/advice/ev-charging-levels/

    Level 3 charging is the fastest type of charging available and can recharge an EV at a rate of 3 to 20 miles of range per minute. Unlike Level 1 and Level 2 charging that uses alternating current (AC), Level 3 charging uses direct current (DC). The voltage is also much higher than Level 1 & 2 charging, which is why you don’t see level 3 chargers installed at home. Very few residential locations have the high-voltage supply that is required for level 3 charging.

    Additionally, DC Fast Chargers cost tens of thousands of dollars. So even if your residence has 400-volt electricity service, the cost to install the charger would most likely cost more than your EV. Tesla calls their Level 3 chargers Superchargers; others are called DC Fast Chargers.


    https://newatlas.com/automotive/desten-900kw-fastest-ev-charger/

    This, of course, is in a perfect world where 900-kW ultra-fast chargers are as readily accessible as gas stations are today, which they manifestly are not. And if they were, and they were in regular usage, would the power grid be able to cope with multiple instant load spikes, each pulling nearly a megawatt for five minutes?
     
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