What happened to the suppposed 25 versions of the 512S produced ?

this could be good... hopefully runs until feb so can combine with retromobile...


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Image Unavailable, Please Login Could someone remind me which one is the 512 M currently at Le Mans museum ? Thanks in advance !

 

1044, in the livery of BOAC 1000 kms of Brands Hatch 4 April 1971 where Herbert Müller and René Herzog placed 4th.

Marcel Massini

 

So genuine ! Great ! Many thanks Marcel !!

 

With more than thirty races in five years and a national championship title to its name, including outings in the Le Mans 24 Hours, the World Championship for Makes, the Can-Am Challenge Cup, the Interserie, the Swiss championship and even a number of hillclimbs, chassis #1044 is by far the most raced 512.

Marcel Massini

 

incorrect, that is not #1044

 

R.

Marcel Massini

 

Another replica ? What a pity !!

 

Which would mean that the current exhibit in the LM museum is now basically a show of replicas and recreations?

Marcel Massini

 

Who makes these Ferrari replicas/recreations ? Do they receive the Historical Technical Passport ?

 

HTP as the wording does not indicate means that the car is compliant (a) with relevant FIA rules appendix and (b) period original ( or updated) FIA homologation. Does not matter who built it and when the car is manufactured. Can be built yesterday and does not have to be by the original manufacturer ( although this issue for lawyers leave open the question of copyright rights on original design,,,). For example all the Cobra Daytona currently racing are brand new cars. The originals are probably too valuable and fragile for effective racing.

The combination of those rules however creates a side issue. Even if you are willing to risk your original car for racing, you need to satisfy the FIA rules which mean modify the car accordingly. Some are easily reversible although complex like on board extinguisher or FIA approved fuel tank. But some are much more invasive like to roll bars that are mandatory ,except for sport prototype ,starting in the sixties. And for some cars it is impossible to do without modifying massively the car to a point it may not be reversible. I have been told for example it is impossible to modify an original Lancia 037 competition to current FIA rules , so either you build a new one or you keep the period one in your garage or museum, depending how rich you are.

On a side note and I know what I am talking about, to have an expensive orignal car with HTP on the same grid than a newly built worth a fraction of the price replica with much more aggressive- for a reason- drivers is a current dilemma of historic racing ( the one HTP was created for to have a even playing field ). Original cars will progressively disappear from historic racing grids…

 

Thanks for the reply.
My question was WHO makes Ferrari P4 or 512M replicas ?
For example, Lola T70, and Ford GT40 replicas/continuations can be bought from specialist workshops, and more important with HTP.

 

John Hadjuk Sr. of Motorkraft (by then in Noblesville, IN) made 2 replicas as detailed in Prancing Horse (the magazine of FCA) about 30 years ago.

 

As I recall John bought all of Herbie Muller's stuff.

 

That’s correct- as it was explained to me, there was one factory car that he was restoring and building 2 cars up (replicas) from the spares at the same time.

 

I believe it's Hajduk. Father 'John' (deceased), son 'Larry'
https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/john-hajduk.552276/

https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/john-hajduk.551053/

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https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/posts/142239236/

https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/posts/147046925/



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512S #1004 is for sale at Girardo

 

link please

 

here? .... https://girardo.com/

don't see it
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He sold that car to an FChatter a while back, but AFAIK it is still in said FChatter's possesion, to much enjoyment.

 

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Are those real?

 

#1020 at The Concours Club circuit today

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