F355 Market

What? All 355s aren't worth 250k?

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I think the Bs and GTSs are now, and like i say they will parallel the flight path $$ of the Dino In 3-5 years

 

Parallel how? Like (X - $500k)? That statement is meaningless outside of "will continue to appreciate."

 

I'd argue that very few actually are worth >$200k given recent data. If you exclude the sales over the "bubble" of the last two years, they still appreciated well (generally doubling in value), but anyone that thought that exponential growth that occurred during the bubble was deluding themselves.

 

Yes $400-$500k in the not to distant future

 

Lots of people compare it to the Dino in terms of value.. why is it supposed to be that valuable? And btw I'm a skeptical gated GTS owner.

 

Because there’s not that many of them left the herd is thinning

 

I don't think you understood my meaning. An item can appreciate at the same rate but will not approach the parallel line at any point. Maybe you meant asymptote.
Basic mathematics aside I disagree that F355s will approach Dino values simply because of the numbers produced.

 

You’re entitled to your opinion and I disagree with yours either way we both like ice cream and who cares enjoy the great NFL games that are on today xo

 

That's one thing about the future. We will know when it's here. The question is also what will $400-$550k be worth in that future.

 

You may be right.

However, as far as future valuation goes, the number of cars produced does not exist in a vacuum; what nobody knows is how many people will want one in the future.

Everyone said G-body 911s would never be worth anything because they made too many of them, too.

 

Very few U.S. 95 GTS. I guestimate that 425 95 GTS were made worldwide. So when you compare these numbers to Dino production, you see how the cars could eventually be valued as high as a Dino GTS. And yes, I own a U.S. 95 GTS.

 

1980-82 there were 223 Lotus Type 84 Eclat S2 made. Not sure numbers alone that will do it. What is the missing ingredient? No one knows, it's why its called speculation I suppose?

It's like all the Hippeis blowing 250K on Camaro and Chevelle restorations, now that they all did it, got their kicks, sold them who wants them. I know they all thought they would go up forever. Seems not. Once those generations are gone the market dries up I suspect?

If you have a 355 and get an offer you can't refuse today and refuse to sell hoping it will go on up forever, you may be disappointed. Maybe not. That's part of the fun, the browsing, monitoring, posting, hoping, researching, making numbers line up like you want them to, its all part of the fun.

Let's hope your right, I hope they are all worth 500K, but numbers alone won't do it, needs a market, my kids want nothing to do with Ferrari, they all want Teslas. Gag me with a spoon.

 

2577 GTS have been built in total so I don't know why you mention just the US production in 95 - the market is worldwide and cars travel all around the world.

 

Demand is what’s missing. Maybe it’s a sad truth, but not many people want an Eclat.

 

Not many more even want a Lotus--any Lotus.

 

Mostly true, except for Elise/Exige lately. They saw a nice bump over the past few years; honestly, I'd love one. A Caterham (Lotus) Seven is on my list, too. Alas, too many cars I want, not enough money or garage space...

Even so, I'll pass on the Eclat, lol.

 

I agree totally, the point is small numbers don't equate to Dino money automatically. Heck the 84 to 98 911's arent exactly rare either but there we go.

I think 355 has some upside, but I suspect not 993 TT territory. I could be wrong.

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Question:

If you have a car where only 100 were made , but 200 people demanding it.... is that effectively the same as a car where 1000 were made and 2000 demanding it? Curious on people's thoughts as I'm not sure I know the answer.

 

In my un-expert opinion, I'd say it's effectively the same.

In either case, now that there's 2 potential buyers for each car, the big question is how bad the people demanding the car want to have it. When you think about it, so many little variables make up a market when you start getting down to the level of individual buyers. I think that's the same wherever you have 2 people that want one thing.

I'm 100% not sure if I'm missing something, but it's an interesting thought puzzle.

Curious to see what others' opinions might be.

 

The likelihood of one of the 1000 cars being available for purchase is usually far greater than one of the 100 so I wouldn’t say they’re the same. It’s number of people/cars ratio plus availability.

 

Are we bored yet?

 

Someone could say this is a April car for year X and only X were created in April making it rare, segment further, add in color and options and its easy to say the car is a 1 of 1. Numbers don't lie, I demand 500k!

 

How many were red/tan?

sjd

 

It's what happens when there aren't any clean non storied red/tan GTBs ever on the market. LOL