LaFerrari replacement: v12, no hybrid, less power than SF90stradale?

Most of them are indeed useless. Digital gauges are less heavy than analogue ones though. Ditto for the oil level gauge, if you drop the stick. You are gasping at straws now. BTW, even F1 cars have sensors that let you know oil temperature and pressure. It is essential, you know... You just need one screen for all of that. All of hese do not amount to more than 10 kilos though.

Really? Try telling that to a race driver...

You mean power windows?

 

We are required to have TPMS in our race series by IMSA and Ferrari. In car Race GPS computer is critical to know your track times especially in qually throughout the lap to know if you are purple or to abort and/or pit for tire pressure.


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For some weird reason, people think that driving rudimentary and crude cars is racy or sporty. Meanwhile, in F1:

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Indeed certain electronics are needed for competition. Street is different. For instance, we only need an idiot light for tire pressure. That is done with the anti-lock system so no extra ECUs required.

 

Is this related in any way with the new upcoming supercar?
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Maybe a special projects car?

 

I don’t think is for new model, I think is for event for fans or something like that

 

That’s too few teasing for a new model. Maybe something for the fans, community… something related to the factory maybe.

 

Why wouldn't one want to know the exact pressure and temperature of every individual tyre?

 

I really do need that info to know if it is a minor pressure issue (e.g., 1 lb low) and to see if it getting worse and I have a real problem as I have had this issue on multiple street cars. It also helps me calibrate pressures compared to my tire gauge.


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unfortunately, no

https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/ferrari-keep-on-dreaming.670392/

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You may want to know it (I do) but you don't need to know it. The law in the US is just an idiot light for any tire not within spec. Millions of cars get by without knowing exact numbers. Numbers require a wireless transmitter and receiver. Unnecessary weight, power, complexity and cost.

 

We are talking about grams now. The benefits outweigh the penalty, by far.
Keyless entry and Apple Carplay are useless. Anything pertaining to driving should be welcome.

 

Your weight arguments seem to be stated as either 10kg's or grams. Not a lot of respect for the overall weight-sum of parts. It adds up.
We built TPMS units with TRW. Audi was one of the customers. They wanted to put a valve stem mounted TPMS unit on a 21" rim and go 200MPH. I will spare you the math but that equates to 1,500-G's. Multiply that with your grams.

Yes, F1 cars are using TPMS units. To me an F1 (along with it's complicated steering wheel) is not what a road car should be.
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Four wireless transceivers with batteries for the wheels then add the receiver/CAN interface ECUs in the car and then antennas and cabling. Some cars use one ECU in the body and add antenna to the rear glass. Not grams. And then there are complaints about parasitic current draw, software errors and cost. Its a miracle how anybody could race or drive casually with just a big motor, tires and suspension prior to all the gadgets.

 

EV performance has got so crazy now that the next hypercars have got a tough task if they want to be competitive



0-60mph in 1.4 and the quarter mile in 7.9 seconds

 

That thing is not a car. It's not even road legal...

 

Frankly lot of Ferrari tifosis don’t care about this.
A Ferrari is a lot more than an electrified dragster to my opinion.

 

it's a car, that's the track version but a road legal version (with the same power) is coming

 

traditionally ferraris hypercars have been competitive in performance terms with the fastest at the time, if not the fastest

the car is not just about straight line speed too, beating f1 cars on the goodwood hill climb !

in time ferrari will make extremely fast electric cars too

 

It's as much a car as is a Formula 1 a car...

Only because F1 cars have been banned from doing timed runs for years now. Even though the very narrow and tight course does favour that miniature...

 

its not just a dragster due to goodwood record and use of fan induced ground effects. this one is the track version but there is also a street version coming. probably be as 'practical' as hypercars from the 90s were. its very impressive feat engineering

 

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I don't know how it can be so fast off the line/0-60 with only rear wheel drive. ..... 1,000 hp is too much for just 2 wheels. Electronics are keeping the rear tires from being melted into a puddle.
...... So if it had a couple motors up front, it would be faster? ..... AWD cars are always faster off the line.

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the fan has full downforce at launch so gives it crazy traction. he did burnouts with fan off and said could go entire 1/4 mi smoking tires.

 

Electronics and those fans, giving it hundreds of kilos of downforce at standstill.

It is an impressive piece of kit, just not a real car, you can drive around in.