C8 Z06

on the road - Jump to 10:00 and 17:15 >>> track battles coming

600LT is lighter = faster


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How to put a C8 into neutral without the engine running @ 2:18 with a special tool. ..... Ok, ...... EXCEPT THE PARKING BRAKE CAN'T BE RELEASED!
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what is the 0-300 kph time?

 

This girl is like fingernails on a blackboard but she is right about one thing: With a modified exhaust the Z06 sounds like an F 1 car. Skip to 18:00

 

Wow… RIP Ferrari is all that comes to mind. The incredible sound is what really sucked me into the Ferrari brand, of course in addition to the driving dynamics, but sound was a big part and served as the marketing (siren call) to drag me in. That Z06 sings the same song, for a whole lot less money, better tech, better reliability… only question is whether my spot in line will ever come up.

 

This is the understatement of the century, but unfortunately it applies to about 99% of all YouTubers...

The car sounds great, though! If I didn't already have a 458, I'd certainly be tempted to get one. I agree that the sound is one of the things that attracted me to Ferraris, and it's sad that it has become a thing of the past for the mid engined cars. The C8 Z06 really makes me wonder why Ferrari doesn't want to build a naturally aspirated mid engined car anymore. I suppose to a certain extent, adding turbos was an easy way to step up the power once McLaren came to market with the 12C--and it certainly makes it easier to hit emissions targets--but I can't help but feel there's still a market for a naturally aspirated Ferrari V8 mid engine car (even one with a manual transmission). At a certain point, it's no longer about the power and more about the driving experience.

 

I think Euro regulations are strangling what Ferrari can do.

This is the car Ferrari forgot how to make. The Z06 will be the Ferrari 308 of our time.

 

that exhaust sounds like a 458c which makes sense since stock exhaust sounds like street 458. cant imagine anyone other than influencers who change stock exhaust on these

 

Maybe Ferrari will 'find' a batch of serial numbers and build a bunch of plastic 308's to 1970's standards. Manual transmissions only and for maintenance simplicity, change the motor orientation to north south. Something to expand the Classiche footprint when electricity flops...

 

what classiche needs to make is a 458 stick. that would combine best engine and best looking mid engine car with best transmission. add subtle updated body kit and would sell out at $1m/per.

factory claimed back in the day that 458 had too much power for a manual but that line of thinking is outdated now

 

This is pretty close to the spec I would make. You can see the stealth interior and the red and black seats.

 

This car really sticks turn 9 at Willow.... goes through tires like crazy.

 

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clickbaity no 'best' track times or head-to-head with GT3 (I'm sure he will eventually) ....... @10:00 he talks/shows how fast he 'destroyed' his tires.

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Ferrari can use that excuse all they want, we all know THE reason for no 3 pedal Ferraris...no one bought them.

 

So I tried to buy a new F430 MY 2008 manual. The dealer tried to talk me out of it but I kept stalling. Then Ferrari said it would cause a delay to the next model year and maybe never go into production. So I bought the F1.

I wondered how many others were forced into the $10k F1 option. I liked the F1 but I was pushed to accept it.

 

Yeah I guess no one bought stick Gt3 porches either, except for the 50% who did. Maybe ferrari buyers cant really drive, or maybe the integration of sticks into the more recent ferraris has been an afterthought, or maybe when you're making the equivalent of branded handbags for men you orders are so strong why bother make a real driver car.

its interesting cause ferrari is all about passion, except for engine sound oh thats vette now and tactility thats porche, well they still got design

 

So he's saying 45 mins of tires?

 

My bet on tires if driving extremely hard will be 1 session at full stick and one day at lower level stick. then buy new ones at 3500 set. Gt3rs won't be much different either.

 

Its a heavy car with a lot of rubber and good downforce. Its not surprising.

 

The number I heard was once F1 transmission was readily available (in the 430), the take rate was 90% F1....

Also, my understanding is that the manual GT3 was brought back for the US market, Europe still preferred the PDK...

 

I wonder how many F430s were specced with the intention of flipping the car, so the original buyer put the popular (at the time) F1 trans on?

 

Not many if I remember correctly. Ferrari had that poison pill contract then about flipping. Many wanted the Scuderia and the limited edition 16M and then whatever replaced the F430 in 2010. I don't recall a lot of flipping going on.

By the time the Scuds came out (they were all F1's) we hit the economic meltdown and prices of them sank like a stone overnight.

 

That Fabspeed exhaust for the Z06 sounds awesome. I'm third on my dealer's list for the car. We'll see if I ever get it.

Still trying to decide between Z07 package or no. I just don't like the boy racer wing. But I imagine someone will make an after market low wing one day.

 

At the time it was said that the 430-motor spun up so fast and low down tq was soft that the F1 transmission really worked whereas it was hard to keep up with the stick.

The 599 setup was just bad//unhappy, poor shift quality etc..
Its was also all the time when conventional wisdom said no one would buy a stick, and lastly Ferrari is these days all about "future lech"
Lasty a F1 PDK etc is fully integrated into the powertrain, esp traction etc, a manual is in a number of ways a different variable.
Add to all that ferrari being production limited for "exclusivity" and backordered and why bother.

The counter argument is porche managed to make a high revign motor work just great with a stick, and responded to clients. For that matter Porche now even makes GT3 touring's without all the wings. They see that if you're selling sportscars, there is a market segment for "drivers: those who go for not raw numbers (which are all more than can be deployed on road anyway) but viceral appeal.
Aston too offered a stick on some vantages, although their motor was more traditional.

I suppose Ferrai now in the tubo era has a motor that woudl work well with a stick. The issues is to me, ferrari no longer makes raw more viceral cars. Their who marketing schtick is Formula 1 ersatz experience for the road.

There are many of us who would love a simpler ferrari, one that is live on roiad, and light/durable enough for track. the modern rendition of the 288. Their turbo motors would work well with a stick, all that's missing is the body and simplicity. Lets call it the classic series, they could do a v12 car also.
Maybe as a public company, theyre interested in sales and profits, classic series does not rob slaes from elsewhere, wexcept maybe competitors.
It also would add to brand bandwidth within the genre. Pkus maybe attract a clientele who would add to brand cred, now that its a luxury handbag for men company.

Electrics are coming, yet once again we see poche is investing in carbon neutral liquid fuels, they're planning on keeping ice for 911s, its a market.

I can see ferrari retainign ice for some models, and those beign mroe classic as elctrics become the thing with 2 sec 0-60.

Jumping away from the stich argument, you can see that vette made a great na motor in the z06 and the vette team is amazed ferrari abandoned that powertrain

 

Black is pretty sick in this car.