is the bubble due to burst?

The grading companies have testing equipment for the metal and products used in the production process.



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Dale has a plan.

 

Looking around, but I'm thinking there are no Marcel's for old sings, right?

 

According to McKinsey, the market for cars above US$ 500K is the fastest growing at CAGR of +14%. Huge demographics shifts at play. Granted most will be EVs but there is a significant market for F cars selling north of $500K

https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/automotive-and-assembly/our-insights/five-trends-shaping-tomorrows-luxury-car-market


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You know I was just kidding. Personally, I have no interest in things I can't drive.

 

Cool chart- thanks for this.

 

Hmm, wonder where all the folks are that told us that they are absolutely certain that all of us should "get out of everything" back when the S&P was around 2,200.

 

Did 0844 sell for 75m euros? Reading chatter on instagram..I'm guess prior to full restoration?

 

Post restoration. To the USA from DE.
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Google translation of the full IG post by Josearias_10 below:

Sold this year (2022) by Ferrari Classiche for 73.6 million dollars. It was restored in 2019 & 2020 by Ferrari Classiche.

It belonged to the German collector Friedhelm Loh who has an impressive collection, but decided to sell his 330 P3 for such a high amount of money, because this P3 cost Friedhelm Loh in 2010 15 million dollars.

This P3 among his record has two Great races to highlight;

First place in the 1000 km of Monza with drivers John Surtees & Mike Parkes.

First placein the 1000 km of SPA Francorchamps with the pilots Mike Parkes & Ludovico Scarfiotti.

The 1966 season ends and Ferrari is world champion in the world of resistance. So they don't spend more & upgrade the P3s to a P3/4 version which was normally for privateers (private Carrera customers) but this 0844 was left to be converted into a Berlinetta with which it achieved little as the 330 P4s had more action.

Third place24 hours of Daytona with the rascals Pedro Rodriguez & Jean Guichet. This race for Ferrari was historic as it was his revenge on Ford by doing a 1-2-3 at Daytona.

For the second half of the season he was converted to a CanAm Spyder.

In 1997 it was converted to a 412 P body, but it was not a perfect body.

 

Same account says 0856 sold for less to sandal heirs. I'm shocked if true.

 

Google translation of the post:

The P4 sold for $70.1 million through Ferrari Classiche for a new German collector by the name of Birkenstock.

Another ex Stroll, this car he sold for exactly the same reason as virtually every Ferrari in his collection.

Personally, this is the most beautiful P4 of the 3, especially since it is the Spyder.
This P4 was created for Scuderia Ferrari & has a good track record in which they stand out;

Second place in Daytona with drivers Mike Parkes & Ludovico Scarfiotti.

Third place at Le Mans with Willy Mairesse "Beurlys".

After Le Mans it was modified to Barchetta, but it was still owned by Scuderia Ferrari.

This Ferrari was in the collection of Bernard Ecclestone, the boss of Formula 1 for many years & with it it already had a valuation of 10.5 million dollars in 1998.

Today it is in Italy in the Maranello museum & has a valuation of +80 million dollars.

 

Yes. How is a genuine P4 less than 0844? Racing history?

 

Not saying the quotations are true regarding the values, but 0844 does have a fantastic race history as a works 330 P3 from 1966 winning 2 major races, the 1000 KM of Monza and the 1000 KM of Spa, and was the 3rd car in the famous 1,2,3 at Daytona 1967 as the N.A.R.T. entered P3/412 P as stated in the IG post. P4 0856 was bought by Birkenstock, also as stated. According to Ferrari Classiche, it was 0858, not 0856 as stated, that was 3rd at Le Mans, 1967.

I don't think P4 0856 won a race. However, AFAIK, Ferrari Classiche have not published the race histories of the P4s apart from 0858, whose history was revised, which means of course that the published race histories of the other P4s has changed.

 

Today it is restored by Classiche & was delivered in 2021 for the 2021 Finali Mondiali at the presentation of the Icona SP3 Daytona.

Now it belongs to a collector from the USA who prefers to be anonymous.

 

Does anybody know how much Strolls car sold for? It was supposedly the most original car in existence..

 

That instagram acct says 70m

 

It's not.

Marcel Massini

 

If only my 'calls" be measured with a margin of error of +/- 10 years.
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Plus the juice

Brass isn't dead

 

Tell that to @Bradwilliams

or not, you would think 10 years of being proven wrong would change a person's mind. Alas, some people can never change.

wait..wait...wait....

Broken clock....

 

Must be a pretty significant car..big number. Considering a duesenberg barely hit 1 million at Sotheby's..

 

What is the car? It's not on that blurry screen cap.