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Discussion in '308/328' started by skipgt4, Dec 27, 2022.

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  1. skipgt4

    skipgt4 Formula Junior

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    This is more of a curiosity question. Having replaced the CV joints and boots I was wondering why the 308 uses “flex top” nuts on the CV joint bolts? Why not just use a good quality Nylon insert lock nut?
     
  2. JohnnyS

    JohnnyS F1 World Champ
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    My guess and it's only a guess is that the axles can get really hot and the nylon can soften and not hold.

    I have often wondered the same thing.
     
  3. skipgt4

    skipgt4 Formula Junior

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    that could be but a good quality Nyloc nut is good to 250 F. does it get hotter than that at the CV joint?
     
  4. BrockBenson

    BrockBenson Formula Junior

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    I don't believe CV joints get that hot. Maybe Nyloc's didn't exist in the early 80s? In fact, I can't ever remember seeing Nyloc nuts fitted to cars by any OEMs?
     
  5. bitsobrits

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    Lotus was using nylon locknuts in the '60s.
     
  6. moysiuan

    moysiuan F1 Rookie
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    #6 moysiuan, Dec 27, 2022
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    There are many nyloc nuts on the car, many in much hotter places than the CV nuts, I always wondered how they can withstand the heat. I can only presume the CV bolt torque is so high that it needed a stronger mechanical lock, I think they are very vibration resistant, the suspension movement must create alot of vibration.
     
  7. MFlanagan

    MFlanagan Karting

    Dec 21, 2016
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    My 1961 Lotus Elite uses an all mtal "Flex top" nut on its inner u-joint -- because there is an inboard brake disk sandwiched between. It uses nuts with lock washers most everywhere else.
    Mike Flanagan
     
  8. Steve Magnusson

    Steve Magnusson Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Heat (both convective and radiant) from the (glowing ;)) exhaust manifold near the inboard CV joints probably played a role in their selecting an all metal locknut (rather then a Nylon insert locknut).
     

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