C8 Z06

True the Vette is a bit too big, and def too heavy
It is also undeniable that corvette built a car far closer to what more than a few of us hoped ferrari might have built than what ferrari now makes. Thats pretty spectacular then. Its also brave going NA when undoubtably twin turbo is faster on paper. But then vette is taking a page out of porche book and doing multiple flavors of the platform including that TT and a hybird and then a TT Hybrid.

 

This morning I got the email I’ve been waiting for. Car (Red 3LZ Spider) arrived at the dealership last night. Their 1st Z06. I was there checking it out 30 minutes later. Take delivery on Tuesday. It is LOUD at start up, much louder than my stock 458 (15’ Spider). Let the comparisons begin!

 

Can't wait for your comparison!

 

Very well put

 

640 WHP!? Holy ****

 

Gt3s which are the comparison can easily do two days on tires full tilt ie 2 mins at the Glen, as can a Camaro Zl1 1Lth.
Its quite possible that the tires on the z06 are really soft just to get those good laptimes, add in 3600+lbs and 670 hp and bobs your uncle on tire life.

That would make the vette for all practical purposes not really a car to use on track. Or maybe there is a slightly lesser tire that will last a few days. Let see when people start running these cars consistently how it all shakes out, right now its speculation.

One thing for certain, the car magazine lightening tests are unlikely to procvide this datta on tire life.

 

Throtle house has Ford gt, speciale, z07 compared on new YouTube video. Feel its a worthy companion to those all time greats. Only complaint on z is steering feel. And speciale held its own in drag race.

 

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I would use Pilot Sport 4S off the "regular" Z06, same tire sizes front/rear, and they will outlast a Cup2R no doubt. And the car will be slower but when you have a car like this, you're going to be one of the fastest cars there, regardless of Cup2R's or PS4S's

 

So, picked up the Z06 this afternoon. Initial impressions: The ride quality is impressive on crappy New England roads. This would be an easy car to daily drive. Soaks up the bumps in touring mode better than my 458, 911 GTS, R8 or even my M6 Comp Convertible. Steering wheel feel & input is a bit muted. Not quite in the same class as 458 or 911. Infinite setting options on seemingly everything. The car sounds great. Not quite Ferrari great, but very good. Exhaust in Z / track mode has that off throttle burble that should be mandatory on every sports car. The delivery experience is still very much Chevy, especially compared to the Exotics, but for the money, I’m not complaining. Overall I am very impressed with the car. Unfortunately break in mode has 487 more miles, and that won’t happen till spring. Dealership GM told me they had +100k offers from the car appearing on their website (it was never actually for sale). We’ll see, but if initial C8’s went for +50k, the Z06 is worth more.

 

I think some of that demand was because it was the new thing. Look at 430s today or any of the other cars offering a manual or automatic option. The prices of the manuals today are way higher.

 

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Beautiful - and great analysis! A good friend who ordered/bought a 2022 C8 Z51 and shortly after put a deposit down for a Z06 allocation just told me he was told that essentially Chevy was building what they wanted and he might be able to get something but no builds and no spec orders - so he told them to pound sand. Now he could be FOS but really has no reason to lie to me - and prior to the C8 he bought 6 Jags from the same family-owned dealership group in Colorado so not exactly a neophyte.

Regardless, yours is beautiful - congrats and good to see one actually OWNED/delivered to a knowledgeable multi-car enthusiast versus YouTube videos.

Cheers and look forward to more writeups as the break-in miles come off

 

I know the YouTube generation is all about 0-60.
I want to see track comparisons on a real track

 

2023 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 vs. Lamborghini Huracán Tecnica, McLaren 765LT: Club Supercar (motortrend.com)

great showing for the vette. more enjoyable than lambo and toss up with mac, gaining lots more livability while only giving up slightly performance. wow.

 

Dec.3 https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/posts/148891577/
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https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a42369429/2023-chevy-corvette-z06-pops-engine-52-miles/

This really sucks for the owner. I'm interested to see if this was just a bad engine from the factory or if the car had 52 hard miles out of the gate.

 

Jump to 3:45 for his rant on dealer markups/profit/flippers. Makes some good/interesting points on dealer (low spec cars) profit scenario.



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At worst, your friend is FOS. At best (or worst...) the dealer either doesn't understand constraints on certain options or didn't explain those constraints to your friend very well. GM builds the car to the DEALER'S specs, NOT the other way around.

Reality is that there are constraints on what can be ordered at certain times, but those constraints are parts availability, NOT GM "building what they want". As an example, the aero package (Carbon wing/splitter/cannards) has very limited availability because of parts availability. Now, why would GM screw themselves out of an $18K option everyone wants if they (GM) had those parts available?

 

Z06 allocations are based on Stingray sales. To my knowledge, there is not a requirement that the ordered car be a "sold" unit.
That said, this kind of thing should not be happening (a dealer getting 4 "dealer stock" cars) when there are so many people looking at YEARS before their Z06 number is called.
If I were one of the big Corvette dealers (McMulkin, Ciocca, Criswell), I would be raising holy hell at GM over this (they probably are!).

 

Hmm- Jeep built my Rubicon to MY specs- not the dealers- it even said so on the window sticker- That was a $52k Jeep...

If I spec and order a Roma or 296 Ferrari will build it to MY specs- not Ferrari of Denvers specs-

Whatever- I have no dog in the fight and frankly don't care- Just relating what was told to my friend- who bought 6 Jags, 1 C8 Z51 (to HIS spec) and a Blazer RS and now apparently has to suck hind tit to get a Corvette- Pathetic

 

Well, what he told you is wrong. Either he was given bad info or he was given correct info he misunderstood. I have ordered 6 new Corvettes over the years, including my current 2021 HTC, and I ordered and received EXACTLY what I wanted.
I don't have a dog in the fight either. A dealer saying "GM builds what they want" is BS.
When the dealer gets an allocation for a Corvette (Stingray/Z06), there are probably "constraints" (option items that are unavailable due to supplier issues). In this case, the dealer MUST order a "buildable" car or lose that allocation. To suggest that GM is screwing themselves out of additional money to "build what they want" is silly. As an example, when my allocation came up, the front lift was on constraint. I was not going to order it anyway, but had I wanted that option, my dealer would have gone to the next person in line to order a "buildable" car and moved me back a slot, until the front lift could be included in my build. THAT is how this works.

 

Im going to speculate that dealers are just ordering cars with as many options as they can get, and then charging a premium, they have no interest in ordering a z06 to customer spec for list at this time. It also appears that other than press cars and those for influencers, Gm is unable to source the bits to make civilian customer z07s. Such is the world of speculation that even though a regular z06 looks better and is a far more appropriate road car nearly "everyone" wants a z07.

I was a kid in 82 when the gen 3 camaro with pop up headlights came out, people in LA were paying 10k over 17k list for what was a pos to have the latest and greatest.

in time constraints will ease, and the z06 will be better sorted too.

 

Correct.
There are dealers like Kevin Whitaker in SC that only order cars for inventory. I even asked if they could order a car for their inventory to what I would want and then I’d buy it once it arrived…they said no chance.

 

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Exactly.
Your example is spot on. The point is that this is NOT GM "building what they want", this is the DEALER "building what they want", which is, more than likely, a high option car.
The up side is that there are a ton of Chevrolet dealers, and the vast majority will order the car the customer wants (assuming there are no constraints on the build).
If I was in the market for a Stingray/Z06 and the dealer told me that I would have to take what they spec'd, I would say "no problem" and walk away.

I just checked Whittaker's website, they are showing 4 Stingrays in stock. All are 3LT (highest trim level) and, no doubt, lots of other goodies. And no pricing listed....