It’s a shade different than the modern GTC/4 Lusso, but IMHO it’s just a heavier package of the usual modern Ferrari technologies. I don’t see Ferrari as being a pure sports car company that has been de-flowered. Even during Ferrari’s golden era of the 1960s, we had the 2+2’s that had nothing to do with motor sports and everything to do with generating revenue for the racing program. I don’t care for SUVs in general, but IMHO the brand purity debate has been irrelevant for decades. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat.com mobile app
Spend 5 minutes on the track with it and you’ll gladly eat your words with a side of focaccia and a bottle of Chianti.
I would not want to be seen in it. Besides, what a useless purpose for a truck. Actual, real Ferraris do exist to go to the track with, not to mention that there are other faster, less expensive, and less embarrassing track cars if track days are your thing. I want to see it haul garbage to the dump, or pull a boat. Older 2+2s were actually elegant (I like the 456) but not this.
What is a truck? What is an SUV? What is a car? These are all labels. They aren’t set in stone. There isn’t some official description that any of these are beholden to. Ferrari is one thing, though. That’s how I see it.
It does have a frightening number of tech items that will fail. Makes we wonder about post-warranty depreciation… Sent from my iPad using FerrariChat.com mobile app
As soon as the warranty is over this turd will go the way of barely running $3000 Porsche Cayenne Turbos. As I think I said in an earlier post, I will eventually buy a rough one here in Dubai for next to nothing, just so I can cut the roof off of it with a sawzall and haul my dirt bike in it. When it fills with sand, I will just hose it out with the pressure washer. Oh, the sex appeal of the new Ferrari - truck. I expect to see a battered one with Abu Dhabi plates on balloon tires with a dune bashing flag about a month after deliveries start here. I will post a photo if I can take one while driving in traffic. As an off roader, I expect my Raptor will kick its ass, but it will sound way better climbing dunes. At least until the engine seizes. As for the car vs. truck label, all the wishful thinking will not change it. It is a truck. If you want a car, buy a car. If you want a car which is a Ferrari, well, you are in luck, Ferrari makes them too.
Ouch. I agree, though, that anything in this weight category is effectively a truck. The various SUV/SAV/FUV labels are marketing. The warranty/repair cost issue already makes modern high-end vehicles a lease-only proposition for me. Not a Purosangue-unique issue, but yes, resale values could be catastrophic. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat.com mobile app
I know, check out these 'heavy' trucks. Not only is it just all marketing, "all show and no go" - we all know these are money losers.
So just have to ask (not a rhetorical question - I really am asking) how are the Urus's holding up from a resale/depreciation standpoint?
If you were to ask me if Ferrari could mean only one thing, what would it be? Winning Formula 1 Championships. I will love to hear if somebody argues it should be something else? *** Anything that takes away from that, I argue, is a distraction, anything that supports it is on point. So I ask 'purists' - why did Enzo start making 'road cars?' Yeah, it cracks me up, folks trying to out bona fide others on their 'purity' credentials. Hell, even a 488 GT Modificata is a joke next to an SF75. Schumacher drove a Fiat Chroma for goodness' sake, and he had the pick of the liter. Guess Michael just ain't pure enough.
Since many people bought the Urus under LLC, they can fully deduct it. For some folks, the 1,600 pound weight savings of the PS is actually a 'bad thing' But as you can see in this thread, can please em' all.
No offense but I tend to listen to LdM before you or Piero when it comes to the leadership of the company. Is there anything you think Enzo wouldn't do for money?
for whats its worth .. I hate SUVs but we have a couple of them in our garages .. The one I think that has been the very best of the many I have owned in the last 30 years or so . and I fell in love with it the first time I drove it . IS the Porsche Cayenne TURBO.. now this is a well built car covered by a good warranty . Now since them the URAS has been built which I do not own mainly it is a less attractive version of the Cayenne built on the same assembly line in the same factory... I would rather have the tremendous warranty program that is offered by the cayenne .. You may also notice the GVW (on the Cayenne) is high enough to qualify for increased depreciation (in effect it is similar to a heavy duty F150.. which is a very big reason why they sell so well....I also like the BENTLY which is basically built on the same assembly line as the cayenne but finish work is in England I believe it uses the Audi engine .. which reminds me Audi of course also gets a cayenne version ... so it goes on.....
In the U.K., very well Oldest cars still at list, most above or well above. Performante completely sold out, S sold out through change to Hybrid in 2024/5
Of the 79 examples on sale online here in Dubai, the cheapest Urus I can find here is asking for around $200k, but it is a 2019 with 79,000 km on it and the owner is trying to sell before the warranty expires next fall. I expect prices to plummet when they come off warranty and cheap Japanese market examples start coming in. I'd still prefer the Porsche or the G were I in the market (I actually was looking for a G400D but they are completely sold out).
Urus listed for $269 CND full jam 2020 model. I expect the Urus to be 200k by March, and under $190 by July..
Urus is sticker to minus 10-15% at the moment if it has high miles. As the market falls it will still be better than the 80k or so many lost on a lusso in a month in order to get a pista.
Scuderia Ferrari faces $55 million hole as sponsors pull out. Good thing order books for the PS are full, here’s to a better 2023 on track.
By that rash, the company should have shut down decades ago. The time and place and culture from which the company began is completely different now. Evolution almost demands….Evolution. The spirit of the founder’s intent is present; but he couldn’t have envisioned what the world has become. Companies have to outlast their founders, or they’ll cease to be companies.
