Maserati MC20 | Page 55 | FerrariChat

Maserati MC20

Discussion in 'Maserati' started by TheMayor, Jul 1, 2020.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

  1. Jo Sta7

    Jo Sta7 F1 Veteran
    Rossa Subscribed

    Oct 13, 2015
    5,901
    Scottsdale/Pittsburgh
    Full Name:
    Jon
    They aren't making many. The Cielo will be especially rare. Values will stay up.
     
  2. TheMayor

    TheMayor Ten Time F1 World Champ
    Rossa Subscribed

    Feb 11, 2008
    106,023
    Vegas baby
    Given its being made where the Alfa 4c was in Bologna, I suspect its going to be like 2000- 3000 total made, including spider which will probably be 40% of them.

    The Alfa 4c is rare but that won't make them valuable in the long run I don't think.
     
  3. Jo Sta7

    Jo Sta7 F1 Veteran
    Rossa Subscribed

    Oct 13, 2015
    5,901
    Scottsdale/Pittsburgh
    Full Name:
    Jon
    I was told less than 1k total Cielos but who knows. My local dealer thinks they’re getting 2-3 by 2025. That’s not a lot. Plus it’s one of the best looking convertibles of the last 20 years.
     
    white out and TheMayor like this.
  4. TheMayor

    TheMayor Ten Time F1 World Champ
    Rossa Subscribed

    Feb 11, 2008
    106,023
    Vegas baby
    That fits my guess pretty well. They will switch to electric versions after they wind down the V6's and make another 1000 or so.
     
    Jo Sta7 likes this.
  5. white out

    white out Formula 3

    Mar 3, 2010
    1,287
    If basing future speculation off prior Maserati sales .... the MC12 did okay over the past two decades (well, almost two).
     
  6. Shorn355

    Shorn355 F1 Veteran
    Rossa Subscribed

    Jan 13, 2011
    6,859
    Colorado
    Full Name:
    Scott
    Well-stated as usual-

    If I were to a) sell a bunch of stock or b) consolidate multiple cars into a new-car purchase the MC20 is my only temptation.

    I wouldn't have a "hybrid" up my ass so that pretty much narrows things down.

    IMHO the MC20 is the prettiest "new" non-batterymobile exotic available- Overpriced yes but breathtaking in the metal.
     
    TheMayor likes this.
  7. wbaeumer

    wbaeumer F1 Veteran
    Consultant

    Mar 4, 2005
    8,986
    ",,...did OK..."??? Really? I brokered two cars

    - a Stradale for 3.8m Euro in 2022

    and

    - a GT1 for 4.5m Euro in 2021 (and now a good GT1 does not go under 5.5m Euro.)

    So I think, the MC12 performed very well in value!
     
    white out likes this.
  8. wbaeumer

    wbaeumer F1 Veteran
    Consultant

    Mar 4, 2005
    8,986
    I still can not understand why you always show up here with the Alfa 4C...

    This car was -made by Maserati- under a completely different production situation until 2018 and had a complete differrent concept package than the MC20 and Cielo.

    Furthermore these cars are both in a much higher price universe than the Alfa.
     
  9. F1tommy

    F1tommy F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Dec 15, 2007
    11,475
    Sugar Grove USA
    Full Name:
    Tom Tanner
    I think the new Alfa supercars switch to almost 100% ICE production will happen to this also, with only a few EV versions being made. Maserati Alfa should watch what Toyota is doing to see the future, not government mandates.
     
  10. italiancars

    italiancars F1 Rookie

    Apr 18, 2004
    3,444
    Hershey, PA
    correction, the 4C and the MC20 was/is built at Via Ciro Menoti in Modena not Bologna. That is Maserati’s HQ and the only vehicle built there. Most of Maserati’s production is built in Torino at Mirafiori with the Grecale built at the Casino plant in southern Italy with the Stelvio and Giulia
     
  11. Ferraripilot

    Ferraripilot F1 World Champ
    Owner Project Master

    May 10, 2006
    17,843
    Atlanta
    Full Name:
    John!
    The hybrids may tank worse. Batteries.......
     
    TheMayor likes this.
  12. TheMayor

    TheMayor Ten Time F1 World Champ
    Rossa Subscribed

    Feb 11, 2008
    106,023
    Vegas baby
    Agree. In ten years you may be needing a new battery. $50-100K? Who knows.
     
    wbaeumer likes this.
  13. TheMayor

    TheMayor Ten Time F1 World Champ
    Rossa Subscribed

    Feb 11, 2008
    106,023
    Vegas baby
    Correct. Wrong city but the same factory.
     
  14. TheMayor

    TheMayor Ten Time F1 World Champ
    Rossa Subscribed

    Feb 11, 2008
    106,023
    Vegas baby
    I still cannot understand why you cannot face simple reality without going crazy. The cars do have SOME similarities. That doesn't make the the same and that doesn't make the MC20 a "bad car". In fact its a good thing.
     
  15. wbaeumer

    wbaeumer F1 Veteran
    Consultant

    Mar 4, 2005
    8,986
    I personally saw a production line of the 4C next to the GranTurismo cars...in Modena.
     
  16. wbaeumer

    wbaeumer F1 Veteran
    Consultant

    Mar 4, 2005
    8,986
    I am not going crazy! Yes, some simirarities: mid-engine and 2-seater! Thats all, basically! If you call this "similarities" than every mid-engine car has something in common...
    Build quality of the 4C was, well, discussable while the MC20 has a good build quality (I drove one of them all day long and saw also 4 other cars to compare). Performance of the MC20 is far ahead on top of the Alfa.
    Price tag is much higher than that of the 4C was.

    Yes, the Alfa was a very nice car, no doubt - but it does not make sense to refer to it here constantly...
     
  17. TheMayor

    TheMayor Ten Time F1 World Champ
    Rossa Subscribed

    Feb 11, 2008
    106,023
    Vegas baby
    Someone needs to look up in the dictionary for the word "constantly". :)
     
  18. Ferraripilot

    Ferraripilot F1 World Champ
    Owner Project Master

    May 10, 2006
    17,843
    Atlanta
    Full Name:
    John!
    Not to go too off-topic, but in the 70s weren't the Bora/Merak and perhaps other bodies built by a metal factory that also produced passenger bus bodies?
     
  19. staatsof

    staatsof Nine Time F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Mar 13, 2005
    95,935
    Fuggetaboutitland
    Full Name:
    Bob
    You're way out of your league on this one Bob. Just admit you made a mistake and move on.
     
  20. staatsof

    staatsof Nine Time F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Mar 13, 2005
    95,935
    Fuggetaboutitland
    Full Name:
    Bob
    I have no idea but it does sound plausible. Lots of things were subcontracted out. Modena was full of shops and companies that serviced Maserati, Lamborghini and Ferrari among others. My Bora has foot rest in the passenger compartment that's identical to the one in my Espada. The door panels were beaten out on wood bucks. If you compare the curvature on the RH and LH doors there's quite a bit of difference. I made templates once for possibly fitting some other side mirrors as I thought the electric Vitaloni mirrors looked awful but they did work well.
     
  21. TheMayor

    TheMayor Ten Time F1 World Champ
    Rossa Subscribed

    Feb 11, 2008
    106,023
    Vegas baby
    Why? They are made in the same factory.

    And I admitted I said the wrong city.
     
  22. rockminster

    rockminster Formula Junior
    Silver Subscribed

    Nov 20, 2003
    874
    Lake Tahoe
    If thinking about future value, zero chance I buy an EV or hybrid. Anyone want to use an iPhone 8!

    MC20 is a relative value when compared to Ferrari, McLaren or even a 911 Turbo. If the car’s prove to be reliable, I expect they will hold their value well.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
    Shorn355 and white out like this.
  23. italiancars

    italiancars F1 Rookie

    Apr 18, 2004
    3,444
    Hershey, PA
  24. redcaruser

    redcaruser Formula 3
    Rossa Subscribed

    Apr 8, 2012
    2,426
    switzerland
    Full Name:
    daniel
    The question will also be how the MC20 with all-electric drive and massively more power will affect the ICE model.
     
  25. F1tommy

    F1tommy F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Dec 15, 2007
    11,475
    Sugar Grove USA
    Full Name:
    Tom Tanner
    They need to make it hybrid and not all electric. Most will be happy overall. I think we will be hard pressed to find non hybrid ICE vehicle in 10 years. But the full EV movement will be backtracked by things beyond the Environmentalists control. So sorry to them.:p
     

Share This Page